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KK first level dym

Blight1Blight1
edited June 2009 in Hold'em Poker Strategy
i had KK raised up early position 60, sb calls and bb goes allin 2000, wot do u do here?
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  • paddytrinipaddytrini
    edited June 2009

    KK you call, unless you have any info that makes you certain the other guy has aces. There's a good chance he could be making the same move with AK - TT.  In fact I'd wager that he's got AK/AQ and put you on lower pocket pair and expects you to race. If he has aces well, good for him . A fold there would be way too tight..

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  • bonniedogbonniedog
    edited June 2009

    If the other player has exactly AA you have 18% Equity in the hand.
    If the other player has a range of AK QQ+, you have 57% eguity in the hand.
    If the other player has a range of AQ+ TT+, You have 68% equity in the hand.

    Hope this helps.

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  • mrlogicmrlogic
    edited June 2009
    instant call..but sayin that i more often than not loose wiv kk. nearly always an ace appears .i hate it.. but u cant fold wiv only one hand beating u
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited June 2009

    I echo paddytrini's reply exactly.
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  • BigBlusterBigBluster
    edited June 2009

    As an aside, a 60 raise from early is too small in my opinion. Just one caller could enduce the whole table to call because of the odds on offer: something you clearly don't want.

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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited June 2009
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym:
    As an aside, a 60 raise from early is too small in my opinion. Just one caller could enduce the whole table to call because of the odds on offer: something you clearly don't want.
    Posted by BigBluster
    Agreed. In levels 1 & 2, you either have to crank up the amount you normally raise, or even smooth call, hoping for a Raise behind. A bet of 60 only induces a whole bunch of callers, & now your hand value has changed dramatically.

    In the mid & late stages, of course, it's totally different.
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  • Blight1Blight1
    edited June 2009
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym:
    instant call..but sayin that i more often than not loose wiv kk. nearly always an ace appears .i hate it.. but u cant fold wiv only one hand beating u
    Posted by mrlogic
    This! I dunno why but kk is a dog against an ace on this site for some reason, and thats the only reason i even think about a fold with kk lol. I snap called, villain had AK bye bye me
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  • Blight1Blight1
    edited June 2009
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym:
    As an aside, a 60 raise from early is too small in my opinion. Just one caller could enduce the whole table to call because of the odds on offer: something you clearly don't want.
    Posted by BigBluster
    in double yr moneys players are fairly tight so i dont think u need to do this but in tourneys and other stts i would raise bigger
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  • Blight1Blight1
    edited June 2009
    this thread died on its ar*e eh,the question is why stick ur whole stack in on 10/20 when u dont need to, 100bb pre, cmon ppl, we aint got AA afterall
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  • Blight1Blight1
    edited June 2009
    u cant say ars*? wow

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  • phil12ukphil12uk
    edited June 2009
    Insta call and register for a new game if opponent has AA or outdraws you.  I agree that most players are tight early on buy others will go for 'The Open' strategy and look for an early double up or bust with AK,AQ,AJ etc.
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  • T_ForceT_Force
    edited June 2009
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym:
    this thread died on its ar*e eh,the question is why stick ur whole stack in on 10/20 when u dont need to, 100bb pre, cmon ppl, we aint got AA afterall
    If you aren't getting all your chips in the middle with KK preflop, I think you should go play whist or patience or something nice and quiet like that.
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  • JPDERRYJPDERRY
    edited June 2009
    WELL ALL DEPENDS? IF ITS £5 £10 DM EASY CALL,BUT U WILL STILL LOSE TO WORST HAND 75% OF ALL INS ON SKY, IF ITS £20+ DM, I FOLD ONLY 60 IN, LET THE DUMB IDIOT HAVE IT, THE MANY TIMES I LOSE WITH KK TO ACE RAG ALL IN OR AK AQ AJ ALL IN, ONLY TIMES I MIND WINNING WITH KK ON SKY IS WHEN I HIT FLUSH STR8 SET,THEY NEVER SEEM TO HOLD BABY HOLD 1 TIME YEAH BABY NOOOOOOOOOOOO ACE RIVER LOL
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  • JPDERRYJPDERRY
    edited June 2009
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym:
    As an aside, a 60 raise from early is too small in my opinion. Just one caller could enduce the whole table to call because of the odds on offer: something you clearly don't want.
    Posted by BigBluster
    YEAH I AGREE 120 140 RAISE EARLY POS,YOUR 60 RAISE LOOKS LIKE AQ AJ SMALL PAIR TO ME,LOL WHO CARES JUST CALL
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  • JPDERRYJPDERRY
    edited June 2009

    SO WHAT DID YOU DO? WHAT DID HE HAVE? HOW MUCH DOUBLE MONEY?

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  • JPDERRYJPDERRY
    edited June 2009
    WHAT? £2 DM AND U FOLDED KK PRE, AND HE SHOWED 22 ?
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  • Blight1Blight1
    edited June 2009
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym:
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym : If you aren't getting all your chips in the middle with KK preflop, I think you should go play whist or patience or something nice and quiet like that.
    Posted by T_Force
    lol,I know this, i did snap it, will do everytime cos its the right play,I should of named this thread differently eg... bcos kings r so poor on skypoker is it really worth sticking it all in pre on first level of a dym?
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  • Blight1Blight1
    edited June 2009
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym:
    In Response to Re: KK first level dym : lol,I know this, i did snap it, will do everytime cos its the right play,I should of named this thread differently eg... bcos kings r so poor on skypoker is it really worth sticking it all in pre on first level of a dym?
    Posted by Blight1
    should of posted this in general chat lol
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