combo draw, paired board

OMahonyO

how did I play up to now.  Pretty sure I played post turn horribly but will post that later.  What would you do on turn?

OMahonyO	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£46.97
KarlTheRef	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£27.89
	Your hole cards	8 7
bailey69	Raise		£0.80	£1.10	£13.40
redman1	Call		£0.80	£1.90	£2.47
Prickles	Call		£0.80	£2.70	£54.14
power21	Fold
OMahonyO	Raise		£3.40	£6.10	£43.57
KarlTheRef	Fold
bailey69	Fold
redman1	Fold
Prickles	Call		£2.70	£8.80	£51.44
Flop
		10 10 9
OMahonyO	Bet		£5.40	£14.20	£38.17
Prickles	Call		£5.40	£19.60	£46.04
Turn
		5

OMahonyO

actually, looking again, maybe I played pre rly bad as i was oop

edit - I just remembered i have posted the whole hand elsewhere on the forum, but no cheating lol

Unknown

Squeeze pre is pointless, you really expect to get through 4 callers, especially if utg decides to flat your 3b? Everyone else will tag along and you will be out of position in a huge pot with a hand that needs to flop the world to continue.

Given that you DID flop the world, i bet more like £7-8 on flop, and jamming the turn (i know its an overbet, but you really don't want to start check/calling this hand).

Now you have arrived to the turn, I like betting something like £11-12 as a slight blocker bet where a ten might let you see the river card cheap. Bet/Call the turn if he raises the 11/12, and hope you spike your 15 outs. C/f if you get to the river and brick. 

OMahonyO

thanks coxy, i dont really understand some of your post though.

in one paragraph you say shove turn and in another you say bet 11-12



anyway here is another

RYBOB	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£26.18
OMahonyO	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£19.80
	Your hole cards	5 6
dalty	Call		£0.20	£0.50	£44.52
graham1941	Fold
Bennie-BDM	Fold
leftfoot	Raise		£0.80	£1.30	£18.60
RYBOB	Call		£0.70	£2.00	£25.48
OMahonyO	Call		£0.60	£2.60	£19.20
dalty	Call		£0.60	£3.20	£43.92
Flop
		8 5 3
RYBOB	Check
OMahonyO	Check
dalty	Check
leftfoot	Bet		£1.60	£4.80	£17.00
RYBOB	Raise		£3.20	£8.00	£22.28
OMahonyO	All-in		£19.20	£27.20	£0.00
dalty	Fold
leftfoot	Fold
RYBOB	Call		£16.00	£43.20	£6.28
RYBOB	Show	8 8
OMahonyO	Show	5 6
Turn
		10
River
		3
RYBOB	Win	Full House, 8s and 3s	£41.40		£47.68

zing

1st hand spew

#1 is classic fancy play syndrome pre and raise is way too small anyway if you're actually looking for folds

2nd hand spew - way overplaying your hand, you're better off betting out

stop playing suited connectors oop at micros and see your bankroll increase it really isn't needed to beat 20nl with ease

35suited

I think coxy was saying he would have bet more on the flop then jammed the turn but as you played it he would bet £11-£12

DeuceAK_47

At 20nl your against mostly loose passive players so you should only be 3betting/squeezing for value, so i would take all low pair and suited connectors out of your 3betting range and add hands like 99 and kj for thin value.

Unknown

Apologies for an unclear post, 35suited is correct. On the flop I would have pot/jammed turn, whereas now you are on the turn I'd bet £11-12/call shove.

56cc on that board vs a bet and a minraise is pretty muck, unless you have specific reads that RYBOB plays an overpair like this, he is signalling a set/2pair with his minraise, meaning you are drawing thin with your flush draw. You have no money invested on the flop, maybe its time to dump it now instead of taking the high variance route.

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: combo draw, paired board:

Apologies for an unclear post, 35suited is correct. On the flop I would have pot/jammed turn, whereas now you are on the turn I'd bet £11-12/call shove. 56cc on that board vs a bet and a minraise is pretty muck, unless you have specific reads that RYBOB plays an overpair like this, he is signalling a set/2pair with his minraise, meaning you are drawing thin with your flush draw. You have no money invested on the flop, maybe its time to dump it now instead of taking the high variance route.
Posted by CoxyLboro

Is it never a call to bring in the initial bettor, and take a big draw 3 handed to the turn, pretty deep stacked still?

Or is this asking for trouble? as If you hit trips/2 pair on the turn you feel inclined to stack off?

Is it strictly fold/shove?