What would you of done

shaun09

Looking back at it, i would of raised more. But if that jack dint come i think i would of folded an all in.

Hand History #262208340 (20:04 29/05/2010)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ray01	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£12.90
kemosabi	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£3.63
	Your hole cards	J K
shaun09	Raise		£0.16	£0.28	£3.92
tyler88	Call		£0.16	£0.44	£6.43
ray01	Call		£0.12	£0.56	£12.78
kemosabi	Fold
Flop
		6 6 K
ray01	Check
shaun09	Bet		£0.28	£0.84	£3.64
tyler88	Fold
ray01	Call		£0.28	£1.12	£12.50
Turn
		J
ray01	Check
shaun09	Bet		£0.56	£1.68	£3.08
ray01	All-in		£12.50	£14.18	£0.00
shaun09	All-in		£3.08	£17.26	£0.00
ray01	Unmatched bet		£8.86	£8.40	£8.86
ray01	Show	6 7
shaun09	Show	J K
River
		2
ray01	Win	Three 6s	£7.77		£16.63

pryce6

not min raised pre flop. if you raise more he probably doesn't come in with that hand. played as it is it's pretty obvious he has a 6 but you can't really fold.

BlackFish3

I would of raised 3-4x BB preflop so 24-32p not 18p it's far too small. I might bet slightly more on the flop but im not sure, on the turn i stack off and it's just a cooler imo.

Springs

As said, a bigger pre-flop raise does the trick and takes it down.

I think the turn makes it a relatively simple fold, to be honest. I just can't see how he's massively over-bet shoving without a 6 there. I know this is "only" an 8 quid table, but what other hand does he have to make that move, except 6x?


There only a limited range I could conceivable see the villain having in this spot;

AK - Surely he's re-raising your min raise pre-flop with AK though. If he doesn't then I'm sure with AK on that flop you'd see some sort of reaction, rather than just a call.

Flush Draw - Would he really be playing a flush draw that aggressively on a paired board?

Jack x - If he'd binked the jack, he's got showdown value, and so wouldn't need to shove.

Utter bluff - Possible, but I think if he was on a bluff, then he'd have raised the flop, rather than waiting for the turn to shove.

I'd actually be interested to know what hand you put him on, Shaun?



Finally, the overbet shove is hardly ever a bluff unless it's a pre-flop move, I've found.

It just seems to me, at absolute best, you're calling to split the pot, but I'd say probably close to 90% of the time he's got the 6 here.

shaun09

Ok well the two hands befor this hand he is just shoving his stack in middle after or some times befor the flop, So i thought i would call him this time, Which dint work

pryce6

In Response to Re: What would you of done:

Ok well the two hands befor this hand he is just shoving his stack in middle after or some times befor the flop, So i thought i would call him this time, Which dint work
Posted by shaun09

Ok that's fair enough then if you had some sort of read on him. It's just worked out great for him that he had the goods this time.

zing

Mention your reads in your original post so people have the knowledge you do.

As long as you have a logical reason to call this off like the one you had the play is fine.

Rebuy and get your monies back

shaun09

I dint think to post and say he shoved a few times befor, But i will make sure i do next time

LOL_RAISE

raise more pre.
you only have 50bbs, at this level people will jam random Kx  and even KQ that you beat i would snap call this and be reasonably happy about it