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prensenters/analysts playing at spt

edited June 2010 in Poker Chat
I do not think they should be allowed to play unless they are 100% commited to the tournament as they give an unfair advantage to the players at their table!!

not saying that they are not good players but they are forced to donk their chips away early to go and play ptp sit and gos and mingle....  therefore giving easy chips away to someone lucky enough to be sat at their table..

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  • edited June 2010

    Hi Mr Flop.

    That is incorrect - they are NOT required to "donk off", (though the way some play, it may look that way) but if they do bust, they DO immediately play the PTP "fun" SNG's. But this is "Plan B" only.

    I can think of at least 2 SPT's where a Presenter or Analyst has made the Final - Norman Pace in Edinburgh, & Trevor Harris in Luton.

    It is, of course, always an advantage to share a Table with Rich Orford.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    I do not think they should be allowed to play unless they are 100% commited to the tournament as they give an unfair advantage to the players at their table!! not saying that they are not good players but they are forced to donk their chips away early to go and play ptp sit and gos and mingle....  therefore giving easy chips away to someone lucky enough to be sat at their table..
    Posted by bigflop1
    Untrue imo, they all try to win, its in their nature and i speak from personal experience of playing them in these events.

    for the record, trevor harris final tabled in Luton, and i believe Norman Pace final tabled in Edinburgh they both beat over 140 players!! There have also been other creditable finishes.

    Rich Orford always gives 100% and actually to be fair to him, quite often gets unlucky, as in Glasgow when his kk got busted by 1010, with the case 10!

    I dont know of once case where the presenter has not been 100% committed, in fact i understand they  may get to keep the winnings (or donate to charity) and with a 4k prize for 1st and decent money for other places they would be silly not to!

    they are required to do tv stuff and when they are out they play sit and gos, but that does not mean they cannot take the tourney seriously!
  • edited June 2010
    tikay beat me too it but my post still stands
  • edited June 2010
    in the last spt i played, michelle orpe was summoned to play sit n gos and she told us that they wernt allowed to cash/go deep cos of mingling duties.. few hands later she calls for her tournie pre flop with 9 10...

    im not complaining..... just giving my opinion
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    in the last spt i played, michelle orpe was summoned to play sit n gos and she told us that they wernt allowed to cash/go deep cos of mingling duties.. few hands later she calls for her tournie pre flop with 9 10... im not complaining..... just giving my opinion
    Posted by bigflop1
    michelle told us she was going all in soon to play sit n gos.... i understand why sky do this but its not fair to everyone else....

    anyway.... see you all in swansea
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    in the last spt i played, michelle orpe was summoned to play sit n gos and she told us that they wernt allowed to cash/go deep cos of mingling duties.. few hands later she calls for her tournie pre flop with 9 10... im not complaining..... just giving my opinion
    Posted by bigflop1
    Michelle is known for her wicked sense of humour.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    in the last spt i played, michelle orpe was summoned to play sit n gos and she told us that they wernt allowed to cash/go deep cos of mingling duties.. few hands later she calls for her tournie pre flop with 9 10... im not complaining..... just giving my opinion
    Posted by bigflop1
    That is NOT correct. The Presenters are NOT asked to forego their tournament for the sake of SNG's. That, with respect, is not an opinion, it's a fact. As Norman & Trevor have proved.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt : michelle told us she was going all in soon to play sit n gos.... i understand why sky do this but its not fair to everyone else.... anyway.... see you all in swansea
    Posted by bigflop1
    Sky Poker do NOT do, or say this. When Michelle pushed with 9-10, she had 4 x Big Blinds, in Level 2.

    What may NOT be fair is that, quite often, I personally put a £10 or £20 Bounty on the Presenter's head, that's my own money, & it's done for fun. The SPT's are about having some fun, that is the spirit & ethos of them. I say all sorts of cruel things too, about Presenters, Analysts, & various players - that's half the fun, we are there to enjoy ourselves. It's important, if planning to play an SPT, that everyone be aware of this.
     
  • edited June 2010
    What presenters/analysts are going to be in Swansea?  
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    What presenters/analysts are going to be in Swansea?  
    Posted by BrownnDog
    Mr Orford & Mr Giddens. I shall be present on water-carrying duties, & to abuse Dylan, & all things Welsh.

    If anyone says that Orford "throws" his Tourney, to do the SNG's, I'll scream. He's just genuinely awful.*

    The Presenters, by the way, use their OWN money to play the PTP SNG's. So imagine how much that costs Rich, who is on a run of 47 straight exits in those. Their SPT Entries are paid for by Sky Poker. What more motive could there be for them to do their best?

    Loved the PLO8 last night! We must do it again, too.

    * To be fair to Orford, his Glasgow SPT exit was a cooler. He had K-K v Tens, and a Ten had been folded, so the binker was the case Ten.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt : Mr Orford & Mr Giddens. If anyone says that Orford "throws" his Tourney, I'll scream. He's just genuinely awful.* Loved the PLO8 last night! We must do it again, too. * To be fair to Orford, his Glasgow SPT exit was a cooler. He had K-K v Tens, and a Ten had been folded, so the binker was the case Ten.
    Posted by Tikay10

    Oh good I haven't met Ed yet, would be nice to chat to him about certain hands!! lol You and Orford - together - in real life - for a whole weekend!? I cant imagine what that is like... I hope i can make it...I intend to play the UKIPT in Brighton In July, I hope it doesn't clash with that.

    PLO8? I didn't play last night, I thought I would have a day off from playing like a monkey resulting in you talking all my monies! I don't imagine I will be doing much tonight, so I shall join in if there is a game going!
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt : Oh good I haven't met Ed yet, would be nice to chat to him about certain hands!! lol You and Orford - together - in real life - for a whole weekend!? I cant imagine what that is like... I hope i can make it...I intend to play the UKIPT in Brighton In July, I hope it doesn't clash with that. PLO8? I didn't play last night, I thought I would have a day off from playing like a monkey resulting in you talking all my monies! I don't imagine I will be doing much tonight, so I shall join in if there is a game going!
    Posted by BrownnDog
    Not sure, but most of us plan to get down to Swansea on the Friday night, (me deffo) to play the Friday Tourney.

    Last night? Ugh, I confused you with a proper player - Cowgomoo.

    I'm having a right mare today, I really am.
  • edited June 2010
    Ye I'll probably get down there for the Friday night if I go like at Luton (I think it will be hard to top that weekend - was brilliant).

    I have a 'thing' about self-deal tourneys though. I have never played one as I don't really play small stakes tournaments in casinos and I really don't like the thought of having to pay for the pleasure of dealing myself...why cant these casino card-rooms take a leaf out of DTD's book?
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    Ye I'll probably get down there for the Friday night if I go like at Luton (I think it will be hard to top that weekend - was brilliant). I have a 'thing' about self-deal tourneys though. I have never played one as I don't really play small stakes tournaments in casinos and I really don't like the thought of having to pay for the pleasure of dealing myself...why cant these casino card-rooms take a leaf out of DTD's book?
    Posted by BrownnDog
    The SPT will NOT be self-dealt.

    Not sure about the Friday night, though. But, much as I personally dislike "self-deal", there is usually a nominated "dealer" who does the Dealing.

    As to your DTD comment, well I'm afraid there is only ONE DTD, & nowhere comes anywhere near it when it comes to standards. It is different class.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt : Sky Poker do NOT do, or say this. When Michelle pushed with 9-10, she had 4 x Big Blinds, in Level 2. What may NOT be fair is that, quite often, I personally put a £10 or £20 Bounty on the Presenter's head, that's my own money, & it's done for fun. The SPT's are about having some fun, that is the spirit & ethos of them. I say all sorts of cruel things too, about Presenters, Analysts, & various players - that's half the fun, we are there to enjoy ourselves. It's important, if planning to play an SPT, that everyone be aware of this.  
    Posted by Tikay10
    4 big blinds?? level 2?? it was 2 off cash bubble and she was above average stack!! it was spt swansea 09!! ask flashflush... think he was on table at time  + she didnt push - she called
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt : The SPT will NOT be self-dealt. Not sure about the Friday night, though. But, much as I personally dislike "self-deal", there is usually a nominated "dealer" who does the Dealing. As to your DTD comment, well I'm afraid there is only ONE DTD, & nowhere comes anywhere near it when it comes to standards. It is different class.
    Posted by Tikay10
    friday nights in aspers swansea  = £35 bounty (£5 bounty on your head)

    usually gets around 50 runners...

    i be there if anyone fancies a warm up game b4 the main event saturday...... lets get a few of us down there and have a game!!
  • edited June 2010
    i love the spt and dont want to dis it... only wanted to start this thread to see if i was correct in what i said...

    obviously i wasnt..... see you all down in swansea soon......

    me n dylan will be flying the flag!!
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt : 4 big blinds?? level 2?? it was 2 off cash bubble and she was above average stack!! it was spt swansea 09!! ask flashflush... think he was on table at time  + she didnt push - she called
    Posted by bigflop1
    i'm a bit confused here,you say the presenter are not allowed to "go deep" in the spt so they have to donk off their chips,then you say michelle was 2 off the cash bubble.that would mean she went out in 18th place? so 18th out of 150 is hardly "donking off chips?"

    dave
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt:
    In Response to Re: prensenters/analysts playing at spt : 4 big blinds?? level 2?? it was 2 off cash bubble and she was above average stack!! it was spt swansea 09!! ask flashflush... think he was on table at time  + she didnt push - she called
    Posted by bigflop1
    Was this pre-flop?? I dont know the ins and outs but if all this is true and it was pre flop, I think you have a valid point.  That looks well dodgy
  • edited June 2010
    didnt an irish scarecrow also do well at newcastle?
  • edited June 2010
    I can confirm that Trevor Harris was definitely playing to win at Luton. He was playing some good stuff on my last two tables and even when short kept battling away. He then in the absence of Tikay went straight into commentating duties.

    And at Glasgow Mr Hartigan certainly did not "donkoff" his chips. He actually made an overtight fold with a pair of jacks, then was unlucky to lose with AQ against a slowly played AK.

  • edited June 2010
    When I played at SPT Edinburgh last year, I think both Norman and Orpey cashed.

    Sir Rich was also unlucky at Glasgow, seeing his stack decimated by 10-10 whilst holding K-K all-in pre................he will go deep in one of these soon...................maybe swansea??...........or more reastically maybe 2017????

    Plus, its not in the presenters interests to play toooo many SNGs as they usually donk of their chips early in these (allegedly). And we all know how tight James and Rich are with their money!!!!



    ps, I never said that!
  • edited June 2010



    ... and at the spt in glasgow richard played his hand perfectly


  • edited June 2010
    Actually the OP is correct the analysts and presenters do dump their chip purposely so that they can go and pursue other activities as this exclusive video shows.

    See how the guys have managed to incorporate Ed's "value town" move

    http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/Yps7MF9ZOSOzfjGx

    Hope this works after all that

    Aski :)

    PS, The feint hearted should not view
  • edited June 2010
    Tikay will be upset,that was a pre diet photoshoot,he is much better toned now.
  • edited June 2010
    Oh I dont know Dino, I thoguht Tikay was looking quite toned actually :)
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