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Question for you all
I'll let this run for a while if I can and post my decision tomorrow.
If I missed any info you need that would help make the decision just post ur question and I'll try and answer it
If I missed any info you need that would help make the decision just post ur question and I'll try and answer it
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Just wanted some opinions on this hand please.
The hand was in a ds tourny I have about 4.1k as does bb, sb has around 5.5k
I get dealt 8 10 dia on the button +1. I'm a big fan of suited connectors and semi connectors so I call,
rest is explained below, (thanks Mohican).
I know I am behind but I think I have 12 outs (9 dia and 4 Q's (inc Q dia))
my question to you all is what to do?
Was on the table.
But there is a huge amount in the pot. Call and win and u have trebled up. If it was fast structure its an easy call.
Even deep stacked, I think you should make the call here.
what u should do is put the hand into pokerstove and see what it says.
i've done it for you, putting you up against 2 random hands and two strong hands both of which contain one of your outs. I cxhange my mind and its now an easy fold
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
903 games 0.005 secs 180,600 games/sec
Board: Kc Ad Jd
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.474% 20.27% 04.21% 183 38.00 { Td8d }
Hand 1: 38.095% 37.87% 00.22% 342 2.00 { KdKh }
Hand 2: 37.431% 33.22% 04.21% 300 38.00 { QdTh }
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966,381,570 games 29.129 secs 33,175,926 games/sec
Board: Ad Kc Jd
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.208% 47.34% 02.86% 457517290 27679635.00 { Td8d }
Hand 1: 24.896% 22.34% 02.55% 215909394 24682928.50 { random }
Hand 2: 24.896% 22.34% 02.55% 215909394 24682928.50 { random }
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I will post their hands when post has run for a day
I'll look back with interest to see any more discussion.
I have there proper hands now so will stove it
I had them both on A preflop as one called and other raised then 1st one reraised and other called so was only thinking they had A rag maybe up to A9, A10. This was why I called 2nd raise knowing if flop is right for me I could win a big pot. the fact that the 1st raise was only 2bb and the 2nd raise was a min raise definitely gave me the impression that I wasn't up against AK or AQ. Neither did I have them down as the kind of plyrs who would be raising with K or Q high preflop.
I pokerstoved it with the hands and I win 40% the time. I did call
hit the str8 an trebled up
Easy fold, your flush draw could and probably is dead, and then there's the straight but that's only 4 outs. I definitely fold in this spot. You hav 4.2k with 30/60 blinds plenty of time mate, unless you feel lucky in which case call and still lose.
Didn't put either of them on flush draws and as I explained earlier had them both on raggedy A's due to the weak raise, call, reraise call action preflop.
you know me mate. While some would fold in this spot I ain't putting it down when I can treble up and think I'm good with 12 outs.
personally would fold flop aswell as you are facing two all ins, so at least one must have a made hand? other one could have hand + draw eg kq which would be nut flush if it hit. one could have hit a straight and other one hit set but still you at best are drawing on 12 outs, but there is alot of play left so i wouldn't risk my hole stack in order to be in prime position, you are getting the odds to hit but staking your tounament on a draw when you dont need to not for me