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My own fault?
In Response to My own fault?:
Button with KK. Standard raise. SB calls. Safe flop SB checks and i put in a bet that looked like a standard C-bet 3/4 pot. I tried to make my bet look weak as previously I'd shown down a hand by betting exact amounts earlier in the orbit whilst very strong, therefore took the 3/4 pot button as a level to some extent. As I hoped I induced a C/R from the villain. At this point I did not think he was very strong so decided to flat it as I was pretty sure a raise would see my oppo fold and I was wanting to extract a bit more value out of it. My turn bet was too big I think though and is probably the biggest mistake I made in the hand. Villain knows I'm capable of barreling air and has made moves on me in the past. Was I unlucky here or did I try to play it too fancily? Thoughts? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance xx Small blind £0.25 £0.25 £49.25 taft11 Big blind £0.50 £0.75 £25.28 churriflus Big blind £0.50 £1.25 £9.16 Your hole cards K K 5toneFace Fold shano1 Fold churriflus Check CLIOKID Raise £2.00 £3.25 £63.85 x Call £1.75 £5.00 £47.50 taft11 Fold churriflus Fold Flop 3 9 6 x Check CLIOKID Bet £3.94 £8.94 £59.91 sam1986 Raise £9.00 £17.94 £38.50 CLIOKID Call £5.06 £23.00 £54.85 Turn 2 x Check CLIOKID Bet £17.44 £40.44 £37.41 x All-in £38.50 £78.94 £0.00 CLIOKID Call £21.06 £100.00 £16.35 x Show 2 2 CLIOKID Show K K River Q x Win Three 2s £98.45 £98.45
Posted by CLIOKID
you played this fine bet calling the flop is perfect, you just got super unlucky that he's a luckbox.
edit an argument could be made for checking back the turn but I don't think it matters too much
Comments
Standard raise.
SB calls.
Safe flop SB checks and i put in a bet that looked like a standard C-bet 3/4 pot. I tried to make my bet look weak as previously I'd shown down a hand by betting exact amounts earlier in the orbit whilst very strong, therefore took the 3/4 pot button as a level to some extent.
As I hoped I induced a C/R from the villain.
At this point I did not think he was very strong so decided to flat it as I was pretty sure a raise would see my oppo fold and I was wanting to extract a bit more value out of it.
My turn bet was too big I think though and is probably the biggest mistake I made in the hand.
Villain knows I'm capable of barreling air and has made moves on me in the past.
Was I unlucky here or did I try to play it too fancily?
Thoughts?
You say you didn't think he was strong, well what are you putting him on? It's not really enough to think that he's weak, because weak could mean Q3 and he could bink a Q on the turn but still think you're good. Unless you can pin him on a range it's no use flatting the flop, just get the money in and hope he thinks you're going crazy.
Also, you say he's made moves on you before, how has he reacted when he's check-raised you OOP and you called? Did he bet into you or does he always check?
Idk, usually in you're spot I just get it in, but when I have a lot of experience vs villain I try to over-complicate things thinking that I have good read on them. I think you've got what you wanted, a check-raise (and more money) from the worse hand, just close the hand out without getting too greedy.
I'm nigh on certain I'm winning the hand and I'm also certain if I 3bet it he'll be folding.
I'm puting him on a middle-ish pp TBH.
you say you have played with him before quite abit but you have no notes about what sort of hands he plays int he SB to a LP raise or how he plays flopped draws / 2pr+? makes life so much easier when you note down these types of things.
anyway id never check back turn, yea most the time he is c/fing so we dont get any more money out of his bluffs but hes never going to bluff river if you check back, also i would be floating flop pretty wide if i think hes capable of making moves on me so id have a pretty weak range here and would be betting turn for protection vs overcards / straight draws and semi-bluffing with my own straight draws.
yeah ur turn betsize is huuuuuge, like no more than halfpot is needed as most the time villain is going to c/jam or c/f so it makes ur bluffs than you float on flop alot cheaper