Nasty spot with a full house

OMahonyO

steelba11s	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£11.94
OMahonyO	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£19.20
	Your hole cards	A 10
ARTOIS819	Fold
KP660	Call		£0.20	£0.50	£7.52
jhalai	Fold
steelba11s	Call		£0.10	£0.60	£11.84
OMahonyO	Check
Flop
		J J 7
steelba11s	Check
OMahonyO	Bet		£0.30	£0.90	£18.90
KP660	Fold
steelba11s	Call		£0.30	£1.20	£11.54
Turn
		J
steelba11s	Check
OMahonyO	Check
River
		A
steelba11s	Bet		£1.20	£2.40	£10.34
OMahonyO	Raise		£3.20	£5.60	£15.70
steelba11s	All-in		£10.34	£15.94	£0.00

All comments welcome, no reads.

I feel like I sometimes get myself into bother by not differentiating between extracting value, and re-opening the betting to put me to tough decisions

pryce6

Just call, if he has the J then fair play.

DOHHHHHHH

If you raised the river, like u did....

Then folded to the shove.....as u probably didnt.....

Wud that mean u had turned your hand into a bluff?

BlackFish3

I think i just flat the river, i dont really see much point raising.

zing

calling > raise-calling > raise-folding readless here i think

knowing what he's taking this line with so you know whether or not you can value bet light either raising or betting in later spots is better (if you call and see he bet 55/87 or whatever here) than putting in 50bb then closing your eyes hoping to see half the pot back in your stack.

BLEHHHHHHH

labrat64

Put it in and hope he hasn't a J. Take half the pot..

OMahonyO

I did call and of course he showed J8.  I was really tempted to fold here as I really couldnt find any other hand to put him on. An Ace is surely just calling my raise.
Lol, I think in the end, i searched that hard for a hand to put him on I decided to hope he had pp77 and him being so bad that he didnt realise his flopped boat was now counterfeited.
Everytime, im coming close to folding, I`m thinking, `how can I put him on quads and fold`, i just couldnt do it.

As blackfish said, in hindsight there wasnt much point in raising surely?, anything I have beat is surely folding?.

To Dohh, I dont think, personally, if I had folded, I would be turning my hand into a bluff, as when I raised I obv thought I had the best hand.  To fold, would just mean, now I dont think I have the best hand.

If I was raising, and turning my hand into a bluff by repping the J....... well I`m never doing that

lynx3ffect

you say you struggle knowing the difference between v -betting and getting in a mess well the answer is you have to think what will call you that you beat. in this instance what hands will call your raise? anything lower than the A? no, in which case whats the need to raise as you only split the pot and as you say open yourself to a reshove and an awkward decison...

spots like these where you are most likeyl chopping but some of the time gettin value from a worse fh i like to just call for 2 reasons 1. avoids a difficult decision if there is a 3 bet and 2. we get to see his hand to see what he v-bets on these boards

beaneh

In Response to Re: Nasty spot with a full house:

calling /> raise-calling > raise-folding readless

 BLEHHHHHHH
Posted by zing

spot on