Standard stack off 1

OMahonyO

stingerbil	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£50.15
arthur1965	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£73.72
	Your hole cards	A K
corbett04	Fold
THETANK	Fold
OMahonyO	Raise		£1.20	£1.65	£27.99
ArcadeAmbo	Fold
stingerbil	Call		£1.05	£2.70	£49.10
arthur1965	Fold
Flop
		8 5 K
stingerbil	Check
OMahonyO	Bet		£2.03	£4.73	£25.96
stingerbil	Call		£2.03	£6.76	£47.07
Turn
		5
stingerbil	Check
OMahonyO	Bet		£5.07	£11.83	£20.89
stingerbil	Raise		£10.14	£21.97	£36.93
OMahonyO	Call		£5.07	£27.04	£15.82
River
		J
stingerbil	Bet		£13.52	£40.56	£23.41
OMahonyO	Call		£13.52	£54.08	£2.30
stingerbil	Show	5 A
OMahonyO	Muck	A K
stingerbil	Win	Three 5s	£52.28		£75.69

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Well, was it , or have I overplayed this.  Turn raise should have raised alarm?

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zing

shove or fold turn depending on villain

LOL_RAISE

shove or fold or call turn depending on villain

DOHHHHHHH

What sort of oppo wud u ever fold on the turn to?

An absolute 100% nit??

lynx3ffect

you need a read as to how villains plays his tp oop, does he check/call all streets? 

will he semibluff flush draws?

does he slow play sets regardless of board texture?

typically paired boards arent good for bluffin as villain should know its hard to fold a K here so the min raise on the turn should scare us but as said above if draws and tp stack offs are part of villains game a shove is profitable,

as playedyou should call any non club river too (not sure what you thought you beat after the Jc came?)

OMahonyO

In Response to Re: Standard stack off 1:
[QUOTE]you need a read as to how villains plays his tp oop, does he check/call all streets?  will he semibluff flush draws? does he slow play sets regardless of board texture? typically paired boards arent good for bluffin as villain should know its hard to fold a K here so the min raise on the turn should scare us but as said above if draws and tp stack offs are part of villains game a shove is profitable, as playedyou should call any non club river too (not sure what you thought you beat after the Jc came?)
Posted by lynx3ffect

Thanks lynx, obviously reads are useful, but I thought you may assume that as I did not post any reads, that I did not have any. 

I wasnt sure what I beat either, are you saying I should fold my hand for a £13 into £40?

lynx3ffect

yeh i figure u have no read, in which case its a fold on the turn - just expandin on zing post as to why a jam could be a good move

and yep i fold for 13 into 40 altho i'd never just flat the turn ....you have to figure if you werent beat already then the 3rd club has you beat as you were , i guess, callin the turn hoping for a semi bluff from a fd?