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we should have a televised debate on "do footballers earn too much money for the product they provide"? a present footballer,70's-80's players,managers & chairman.we would have fans in the audience venting their opinions.i would love to Chair !!
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If he spent more time trying to stick to the basics on-field, rather than causing aggro in the dressing room then England would have a lot less problems. Players should be told in no uncertain terms what they are there to do. Play. Simple.
Before Abramovich came in at Stamford Bridge, it is said that JT was on his way to Newcastle United after a bid had been accepted. Done deal by all accounts and only halted when the new regime rolled in.
With regard to the ability of John Terry, he is just a rich mans Titus Bramble.
Since he missed that champions league final penalty he has been on self destruct and not very good as a player.
His antics and jealousy and gobbiness has contributed to a low mood for his England team mates. But in this great world of what ifs, the biggest mistake of our world cup campaign was to choose Green. His school boy error led us away from Ghana and Uruguay and straight to the Germans and Argentina. Heskey not being able to hit a donkeys a rs e with a banjo didnt help either.
Forget the Lampard 'goal'!!!
I have Never seen us defend so badly in an international!
The only common denominator I could see was how badly each individual collapsed after a bad 'team' mistake!!
The two mistakes i am identifing that crushed the teams fragile confidence, [management has to be blamed for that], being;-
1, The Rob Green error, after actually a good start, the team then fell to pieces!
2, The first German goal, it killed them, they were a shambles! GOLDEN Centre Back Rule, the ball must NEVER bounce from a GK kick, John Terry should be heading that all day long, HE RAN UNDERNEATH the kick, WHY?? Did he want to make Upson look bad, cause he did the whole game!!
If the ball does bounce for any reason, The GK, James must clean everything out at the edge of box ish, Where the fak was he? the gerry took his only touch to score at ONE YARD, outside the 6yard box!!!!!!!!! after that we went to pot, they could have scored 6!!
I Know 'The Goal' would have brought us back to 2-2, and we may have fluked it with a punchers chance, if we got lucky, BUT if we fluked thru, Argentina would have beaten us by 6 Or 7!! serious.
Dont anyone point at the Slovenia result, they are a country as big as Wales, no offence
What sums up the incompetence of the FA chiefs... They gave Cappello a 6mill/year contract just before the tourney, FFS, making it probably better for him to bloody fail, and get the contract bought up!! LOLOLO! They gave their Donkey allthe carrotts before he'd started the REAL work!!!!!
I am glad I support Fulham, and dont have to watch those overpaid ego's pose round the pitch every week!!!
COME ON JONNY PANTSIL & GHANA!!!
Now there's a true hero for ya!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am actually extremley impressed with the germans organisation & counter attack ply, they always makes the rite decisions at key moments.......... unlike that Boetang geezer , he was useless ffs, and all the commentators raving over him lol!!............
He should have easily headed, instead of the overhead kick, and when breaking missed 2/3 clear thru passes, reminded me of Luis boa Morte , a real clown who people think is great lol and i'm a FFC supporter
This. I play centre back for a poor Sunday league team, rule is simple, one centre back challanges for the ball whilst the other centre back and full back cover behind. Keeper starts on the penalty spot. Basic stuff...
If my team ever conceed a goal like that, i'd probably quit!!!
Exactley!
I thank you sir, Cant even say schoolboy error! !Even when very young & coached by proper coaches, not Mcdonalds trianed frustrated parents lol, you were taught to get ball moving forward with knee or body, if u could not get head to it!!
I Remember Bill McGarry Wolves, being polite to me when bout 13/14, fac kin hurt alot to keep heading ball when i was littlle[ still am] lol, he taught me the knee trick, if it bounces momentum is with forwards, down the corridor of uncertainty, where a brave hard centre forward will kill your keeper!!
James knew this, which is why he shirked backwards, ending up under his crossbar FFS lol!!
Incidentally one of the teams we played last year was coached by David Harlow (nice bloke) ex Fulham ? i was told
Taras - I'm sure there are some very good coaches out there, but some are truly awful.
Kids shouldn't even be on a full size pitch until they are at least 14, and much like Patching says above, I can remember hearing a coach telling a kid that he needed to learn to "Hoof it as far as you can". Quality.
From my own experience, (aged about 12) I can remember one of our own coaches Giving us a "Size 4" ball to use in training. Such a simple thing made such a difference. He was also a fan of trying to educate us in keeping our shape. Two-touch bounce games with the playing area split into three zones was an easy way of learning some positional awareness.
Used to be fun in these Two-touch games when the "ball" would be swapped for a rugby ball now and again. Didn't half improve your close control when you reverted back to a football!!!!!
It should be 4-7 a side max on a small pitch till about 12. Means everyone is involved and having loads of touches etc. You have zones that have to be passed through that cuts out the hoof. Not rocket science just basic stuff.
I think the fact an area has to be marked out on underage pitches for the parents to remain in says a lot about over zealous parents putting far too much pressure on their child winning instead of enjoying playing the game.
No offense intended to any of the thousands of parents/coaches who just want to see their kids have a good time!
Just commenting on my experiances, the few times I mananged to watch mi boyz playin, cause was always away playin myself, on the incompetance and downrite almost chavvy-ness of some[not all] of the people runnin & watching kids football in my area, West London!
To the point I took them down the local Rugby club, Ruislip, where i knew they would be looked after, and taught a sport ethic, the times i could not be there, by 'proper' people that i knew & trusted!
Both boys ended up captaining their age group for a time, with Craig representin & captaining Middlesex!
Unfortunately injury prevents both from playin now, but they learnt life lessons from Rugby they could not have got from football, and I'm football thru & thru , never played Rugby!!!!
David Harlow does ring a bell with me, googled him seemed he was manager at leatherhaed for a bit, but all i could find. Leatherhead Fc do have alot of connections with Fulham over the years tho!!!!!!!
Good posts from everyone tho
gl all
i was amazed having taken over a bunch of 14 year olds how technically and tactically naive they were basically all they could do well was juggle and swear and what they wanted to do was shoot(strangely not in a match) and dribble.Had to start with the boring basics of trapping.control and 1st touch etc and then took ages to stop them passing to feet when on the move, creating angles offensively and cutting angles defensively. Fortunately i do a 4 day week so a couple days a week in the summer i could train them, went through box work 2 forwards 1 defender then 3 forwards 2 defenders etc so they could see how their roles change in the same position but for diff scenarios. Difference between attacking and defending headers, how to time tackles, how to psh players on their weaker foot etc. Their roles and positions in defending and attacking all dead ball situations and communication on the field. This took about two months,during which i had to think up different types of drills to get my message accross, prob was we started with 15 lads which immediately dropped to about 10 when they realised it was gonna be hard work and then built up to 20 or so coz their mates came along from other teams.Fortunately i got a mate who has a level 2 and has run teams 4 over 20 yrs 4 his 3 boys and he brought with him a mate who had his level 3 and normally charges(but didn't, he used to be one of the kids my mate first managed and my m8 was so proud when he got his level 3 )
Difference in my day was it was so easy to join a team cheaply, these days with pitches costing £90 and refs £30 had to charge the boys £150 for the season so a lot of lads dropped out coz at least 8 of them didn't have dads.Sometimes when the boys didn't show 4 matches or training their mums would phone and say they had banned their kids coz it was the only thing they could do to punish them 4 gettin into trouble(boys were gang affiliated usually youngers in Croydon and Norwood area)
I feel football in this country is slowly being smothered at grass root level due to cost and amazingly access to teams and half decent coaching. Growing up, my gangs were my football teams ive learnt some lads get that same sense of belonging from gangs alone coz they can't afford football.
Running a small club is extremely time consuming, ringing 10 refs a week, arranging pitches, transport for away matches and making time for training and matches not to mention costly.(no more overtime for Sundays)However i got a great missus who did all the paperwork of which there was loads, application forms concent forms passport photos,birth certificates, subs etc, she also used to run the line coz only one dad would show.(he would be upset most of the time coz he didn't understand why 14,15 and 16yr olds didn'play like Arsenal)
So i agree with you mate it is a shame youngsters aren't trained better , however im just grateful that some dads for whatever reason do make the effort to run the smaller clubs coz at least some kids get the benefit of playing in a proper team on a proper pitch with a proper ref instead of getting into some proper trouble
Sounds like your boys were on the right road m8 sorry to see injury stopped them.My m8 Moonhead71 who plays on this site, he would somtimes ref for me and hes an avid Fulham supporter it was him who mentioned it to me. I should mention Moonie is (lol)or maybe was a decent footie player and he would come and help with the training.
Reading over this i hope it doesn't sound stroppy, i certainly didn't mean it to be.
Regards
Spot on Taras
It is getting harder and more expensive to run a football team. Guess its the same with all sports.
Renting a Council pitch went up from £20 to £30 in one season which is a ridiculous increase. (Council don't charge dog walkers to use it and leave plop everywhere though)
Refs went up a fiver.
The Northants FA charge £20 to enter the town cup but if you want to opt out you have to write a letter explaining why along with a £20 cheque, go figure? £20 to take part, £20 to not...
Then you have the FA end of year accounts come through with a statement bragging how they raised over £100,000 from yellow card fines for the first time ever. Granted fines are required but refs have told me how they are "encouraged" to book at least two people each game.
And then to top it all off the England Manager contract is changed so it would cost £12million to get rid of him. How many grass roots teams would that support, thousands!
All the governing bodies seem to make a fortune though?!?!
No wonder Football is suffering at grass roots level. Sad.