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Insult to poker
In Response to Re: Insult to poker:
Have you played any of the Sky Poker Deepies?
They run every hour, every day, & are as slow as almost any Tourneys on the net. But - as yet - not as popular as the Faster Tourneys.
There is something to suit everyone here, & it's wrong to suggest Sky Poker only have fast Tourneys. The schedule is geared to meet what the players want.
In Response to Re: Insult to poker :In Response to Re: Insult to poker : most of wat the don says is true..like i said before i enjoy playin on skypoker .. but be honest. anyone watchin skypoker with the intent of leanin haw to play the game will be sadly mislead. with the way the blind struture on skypoker is.thats not poker is it? its wam bam get them in man..lol. thats not poker . awayyyy tikey your the pro thats not poker is it?.. Posted by zxghostx sure is.... are u sayin poker is about just gettin them in .it sounds like it to me ...theres only one thing i can say then..... ....come back casper. all is forgiven lololI have patiently answered your Questions, (and you have twisted my answers), but you never answered my Question zxgh.
Posted by zxghostxz
Have you played any of the Sky Poker Deepies?
They run every hour, every day, & are as slow as almost any Tourneys on the net. But - as yet - not as popular as the Faster Tourneys.
There is something to suit everyone here, & it's wrong to suggest Sky Poker only have fast Tourneys. The schedule is geared to meet what the players want.
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So I have played a few BHs and sometimesfind myself at home there ! And yes I am still waiting for the identity of these robot players
The point is, maybe another two mins on the blinds when your paying a £11 bounty h buy in may make a big difference. It may stop the fool who has to much money and just goes all in with the first ace.
I do like the fast 6 seater format, it works well on the dym games, but it is a little too quick on the bigger bounty games??
The deep stack games are almost the same as dym except pees wait till the blinds hit them and then they go all in lol.
The biggest shame is how the muppets get the rewards for blindly going all in ggggrrrrrrrr. My aa has been busted by some nutter calling my big raise with 84 and hitting trips or a straight, but hey thats poker gggrrrrr
If you like slow games go to full tilt, but beware you get about 10 mins blinds and 3 weeks to play, it will bore you stupid.
I`ve never seen quads appear quite as much on any other poker site
Not a rant.....FACT
(BTW I am a winning player so have no need to complain about "bad beats" and the like.....just shining some light....maybe SKY could look at getting an upgrade for their "computer brain"
All good fun!
OK 700 players start at 9pm most nights, most are out by 10pm, and yes the presenters want to hit the cash tables at the local casino by midnight, but I for one would like just a little extra time, to a; enjoy these big prize MTTs and b; allow better decision making time.
Playing other poker sites gives us all an understanding how well poker MTTs can be run and therefore how much extra profit they can make by giving poker players the very best service.
SkyPoker needs to consult its paying players, their customers, and confirm just what we all would like from this site just as other poker sites do and then act on that information.
I can understand The-Don's frustration re his original post, even though one does suspect perhaps it was written in anger when he had no option but to open-shove with AceRag only to be called by KQ and be knocked out. However, I think no one has really given respect to what he is actually saying. I totally agree with him re. the structure/crapshoot etc - however I also agree to some extent with most people's logic of ''if you don't like it play elsewhere''.
Many sites host tourneys that are essentially crapshoots and you know what you are getting into when you play them. I don't think that's a problem...however I think the fact that this is Sky's kind of 'main event' of the evening is what is of particular concern...you would perhaps expect there to actually be some play in it.
Anyway; I don't know - whatever. I don't really play on here anymore - I did use to play 1-2 heads up and 2.50/5.00 cash and did make a lot of money; however it got to a point where I couldn't justify remaining loyal to a site that offers such little reward. In the early days of signing up and realising what, frankly, DEAD AND BURIED money was on here (lol) I sent an email to Sky re. any sort of rakeback deal and got no reply. The software was completely useless too - I like to have at least 6-8 tables on the go and on multi sites aswell - with Sky I had to either play only on Sky or have a max of 2 tables at a time. (I know this has changed now). Another point is that, again I don't know if it has changed but the rake on this site is bordering on criminal. If it took me more than 30 mins on 1-2 HU to stack a guy and we both had £200; there would be a good £50-£70 to the rake. I noticed they even rake an unraised pot?!?! What's that all about? Re. the rakeback I mentioned earlier I know Sky now do this new points system but it is laughable that the MAX you get is £1000/month. Looking at the points you need it is a ridiculous task. If I just play at leisure I make at least £500/£800 month rakeback; and up to £2k-£3k on ''sick'' months. To get just £1000 it seems you have to play several tables for 8-10 hours/day on here; summing up if I had one of my current RB deals on Sky and played the amount that was required to make £1k; with my current deal I would prob get about £4k AT LEAST in rb. Anyway; I do understand that perhaps Sky isn't the ideal site for players that make a living from the game; it is geared towards new players/people that have seen the WSOP on TV etc etc - but then that is the draw to the site for a player like me!
BTW another guy was moaning about the structure or something of the £500 gtd tourney; then said ''I would never pay £20 to enter a tournament'' - with due respect your voice doesn't have a great deal of weight here if you want to call yourself a poker player and can't even stake up an average buy in lol.
Anyway; I think Sky does a great job keeping players happy; it is unique with re the TV etc etc. I am sure I will get a load of stick having browsed the ave responses - ''Go elsewhere'' etc etc...and I still have to say it does rate number one on my list of ''Worst players in the World'' - it just pains me that for the reasons I stated before I really find it hard to get back on the site. Having said that, I might deposit a monkey and get back on it; who knows looooooooooooooooool. Also, didn't want to come across as saying 'look at me I'm a pro etc etc'' as I'm sure I'll get the usual ''well if you make so much money why are you on here moaning why aren't you in Bobby's room and so on and soforth''.... I just thought I'd give my overall opinion on the site.
Good Luck all and NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POSSIBILITIES OF 6-3 suited :0)
''I just ran 5's into 10's''.
Not... ''so sick - ran KK into AA or ''Had AKs the guy had QQ....flop came 10-j-rag two clubs and bricked the turn and river''
''I just ran 5's into 10's...SOOOOOOOOOOO SICK! It's rigged mate...RIGGED!''
I made a joke comment about the appearance of quads (in reply to someone elses comment about it). Seems you've got the wrong end of the stick?
You'll find I'm the last person you'll see moaning seriously about "rigged" or "fixed", lol I'm not one of those conspiracy clowns lol
Possibly you're new here today so don't know how a few of us joke about these things in this subforum :-)
So you can say sorry again if you like ;-)
PS -Welcome!
Sorry bout that :0)
GL at the tables...
I think that's a little unfair - Sky Poker do ask, & lisen, to their Clients. That's half the purpose of this Forum. And the Suits read it, every day, & take note.
The Forum only opened in May of this year, & Player Lobbying has already been responsible for a sheaf of new, & different-paced, Tornaments, such as the Nightly Deepies, The new Deepstsack Showdown on Sunday, as well as taking on board players requests to modify the payout structure.
They also, regularly, send out Customer Surveys, to several thousand players at a time. That's "asking the players", & believe me, they scrutinize the results, & act upon them.
At three of last year's SPUKT Live Events, Sky Poker held a "Players Forum", attended by the Toppest Top Suits from Sky Poker, & with a panel of Players, to take on board feedback.
Sky Poker is a young site. It wants to offer it's players what they want. But the players have a role to play, too - by telling Sky Poker exactly what they'd like. I can't imagine Sky Poker not wanting to give it's customers satisfaction - because that's how it earns its upkeep.
So, moving on. What would YOU like Sky Poker to offer, or change, in it's Tournament Schedule?
I'm about to start a Thread, elsewhere, asking for a particular type of Tourney to become nightly. I guarantee you this - if enough people go on the Thread & say "yeah, we'd like that too" - it will be in the Lobby within a week.
Take care now, & I'd be interested in what your specific questions are. But not as interested as Sky Poker will be.
1. I think the no 1 good thing that Sky poker does is introduce poker to a lot of new players and makes it fun and accessible for them. To combine the site with TV shows incorporating online play commentary, player interviews, advice and general poker news is a relatively new concept, and I for one think sky do it pretty well. I haven't played many of the televised tournies (I prefer cash) but when I have and I see a hand I've played get commented on, or get a mention in the player standings, it really gives me a buzz.
2. I personally think the format of the tournaments does make them a bit too fast and furious for my taste. BUT, like other posters have pointed out, structures need to be fast to allow TV to fit around them and ensure that midweek tournies in particular finish at a reasonable hour! I actually think that the fast structure gives newer and less skilled players a greater chance of cashing and will therefore encourage them to play more poker, something that can only be good for the game in the UK in general. I note that Sky has recently added slower deepstacks nightly now which I will certainly look at playing. A good example of sky providing what a lot of the players want after listening to their wishes, so well done Sky.
3. I have played at many different sites online over the last few years. I agree that Sky poker doesn't offer the best software, the best incentives, rakeback, bonuses etc........ However, what it does have is a good mix of experienced good players and beginners which is a refreshing change from a lot of the sites I play which are full of nitty regs grinding out 1BB/100 hands on a gazillion tables at the low stakes at which I play. So for me, I much prefer the variety and with a bit of searching, you can always find a good table or 2 to sit at on sky, particularly at the weekend.
4. Finally, I think that on the whole, the presenters and experts on the show, who also play in the games, provide a great example of what poker players are really like in general. A lot of peeps out there still think poker is all about back room games, cigar smoke and gangster types. But when you see a friendly, approachable and knowledgeable chap like Tikay answering viewers questions on the show or using the chat box at the table, it is evident that the old stereotype has long gone. I guess that there are many regular players out there now who first played poker after watching sky poker one night.
So all in all, I believe that Sky Poker offers something for every type player, and whilst not perfect (you can never please everyone) I think it does a pretty good job for the UK poker community.
also the advice for new players on here are excellent from both players and presenters .
but guys sort the flagship.
The whole of the poker section is a misery. 1000 players = not enough profit = rats picking
cards? seems like it a lot
Is there no way they could start a TV tournament at 8 oclock rather than the standard 9 oclock? Surely this would not be a problem. This would add another hour which would increase the amount of play you get. I played in the 50 pound bounty hunter and arfter a few levels it was very much a crapshoot which I was abit dissapointed with because of the entry fee. I agree there is a slight strategy to these tourneys(nicking blind etc) but they are certainaly not the most skillful tourneys. I would say mostly luck in fact. I would desribe them as tournies for gamblers not poker players.
Also about the deep stacks which have been suggested to play, I feel some people find them far too slow. With the blind structure of the opens etc, being so poor it would be nice to find a happy medium. Something with a blind structure inbetween the open and these deep stacks. If you were to put a nice guarentee on one of these tourneys it could be very popular. I run a lot of live tourneys and I have found it usefull to try different structures to find out what was the one most people enjoyed now we have plenty of regulars. But the only way you get to build up these tourneys is to offer a guarentee, otherwise if you look at a tourney and only like 4 people are registered you will not be eager to join.
Also the point the original poster made about how the presenters try to encourage bad players by trying to say a player is unlucky when he has made a horrendous play is valid. When a play is bad I think you should say more, to be fair the main ones to do this are orford and michelle and they are not even the experts. If you do not you are just encouraging bad players and getting peoples hopes up falsely. The way they big up certain bad players(i dont mean every player on sky poker) for getting so far in tournaments which are quite litterally crab shoots and very much down to luck is riddiculous. If you were to televise a more structured tournament people would learn much more about the game.
Anyway just my opinion, no abuse please its just my personal opinion which I am entiltled to. Alot of you who keep abusing sensible posts I feel would be scared to play a half decent tourney as they would not know what to do and would just prefer a proper gamble of a night which is what they are getting.
I was considering giving up online poker because it this then I tried sky and im enjoying it again, you really dont know just how good sky is compared to a lot of sites out there.
Regarding the games on sky there are a good selection for all levels, and the bonus is I can watch sky poker channel at the same time, if the presenters were going to say very poor player when someone bets with a bad hand that person would not play on here again incase they were ridiculed on tv so bad luck seems fine to me.
my only problem is that i dont know how to put the poker window on full screen