In a mess on the turn...

DOHHHHHHH

Pretty sure the guy here shud be folding his hand pre flop here,can eliminate AA/KK and QQ, he wud have 3bet, and then 4 bet these hands.

I think I have to give up on the turn?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DOHHHHHHH	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£48.25
burkey1888	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£103.79
craigieboy	Big blind		£0.50	£1.25	£49.50
shadow1117	Sit out
	Your hole cards	A K
craigieboy	Raise		£2.00	£3.25	£47.50
xxx	Call		£2.50	£5.75	£64.27
alucard628	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		£8.25	£14.00	£40.00
burkey1888	Fold
craigieboy	Fold
xxx	Call		£6.00	£20.00	£58.27
Flop
		J J 9
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£15.00	£35.00	£25.00
xxx	Call		£15.00	£50.00	£43.27

THE TURN WAS THE QUEEN OF HEARTS.- Missed it off the copy.

Note on the guy ..... - called pre 4x w/3-5 suited, flopped pair and fd and shoved.

Are you just check folding the turn? or shoving in the 50xbb's you have behind?

donkeyplop

i would screem and swear that i keep msising on the flop with my strong aces like ive been doing all morning!!!

c bet then probably check fold!!

LOL_RAISE

bet alot smaller on flop, c/f turn

scotty77

c bet less.  10/11 does the same job.  on these kinda boards tho a CRAI can work as not many randoms woulda bet a J in this spot, and unlikely he has an overpair meaning that he can fold 9x/TT and lower pairs.

i think i prob give up here.  your read says that FD is shoved flop so makes it less likely he has that plus the Q turn complete a couple of draws that he could have + give him pairs with stuff like QTs.  if he has a random Q then he aint folding for 25 if hes calling 17x with it pre.  if the turn was a total blank like a 3c or something then i might shove.  not on the Q turn tho

and ofc you could be dead flop.

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: In a mess on the turn...:

c bet less.  10/11 does the same job.  on these kinda boards tho a CRAI can work as not many randoms woulda bet a J in this spot, and unlikely he has an overpair meaning that he can fold 9x/TT and lower pairs. i think i prob give up here.  your read says that FD is shoved flop so makes it less likely he has that plus the Q turn complete a couple of draws that he could have + give him pairs with stuff like QTs.  if he has a random Q then he aint folding for 25 if hes calling 17x with it pre.  if the turn was a total blank like a 3c or something then i might shove.  not on the Q turn tho and ofc you could be dead flop.
Posted by scotty77

Im such a foooooookin spewy donk

zing

don't even check the turn, just open fold it

your flop bet is madness aswell

harvey23

pre flop is fine. Post I would c-f, JJ9, you are going to get floated by all PP, even hands like QK/AQ/A10 etc for one bet. IF you are going to bet as said £12 is more then enough.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

   2,244  games     0.005 secs   448,800  games/sec

Board: Js Jd 9s Qh
Dead: 

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
Hand 0:     31.551%      31.55%     00.00%                708             0.00   { AhKh }
Hand 1:     68.449%      68.45%     00.00%               1536             0.00   { TT-22 }


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so you have 30% equity in the hand vs this range pot is £50 you have £25 behind, assuming he calls turn bet 100%  of the time you are betting £25 to win a total of £50pot size+£25 hes calling = £75

3:1 which gives you 25% which makes this play a ev-.


this is purely based on him having 22-TT, and 0 bluffs and no J or Q in his hand