check or raise???

donkeyplop

i got involved against a good/aggro player

after he donk bet me on the flop and i re raised he just flatted.

then checked the turn.

what should i of done next???

take free card or raise????

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.08
xxx	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£15.32
	Your hole cards	K Q
	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.86
donkeyplop	Raise		£0.16	£0.26	£3.47
	Fold
	Call		£0.16	£0.42	£3.78
	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.12	£0.54	£15.20
	Call		£0.12	£0.66	£3.74
Flop
		2 Q 3
xxx	Bet		£0.66	£1.32	£14.54
	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£1.32	£2.64	£2.15
	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.66	£3.30	£13.88
Turn
		A
xxx	Check
donkeyplop	????

LOL_RAISE

raise more on flop, check back turn, shove river if checked to

donkeyplop

ok i checked turn another ace came on river and he raised enough to put me all in!!!

what next??? call fold????

harvey23

if they min donk beat then i think its okay to re-raise the flop, since they pot donk bet, i would just call here IP with TP and back door flush.

I would defo bet the turn with your Back door FD, there hand looks like 44-JJ, perhaps QJ. I would bet the turn for thin value around £2. I like betting the turn because if we turn our nut flush on the river, we can extract more on the river. if we miss we can always check behind on the river.

lynx3ffect

check back turn, bet riv for value if checked to and no 4 to the straight card comes

i wouldnt be raising the donk out on flop, as harvey says. and if you are going to raise it then u shud be raising to more like 1.8 to setup an easy turn or river shove

donkeyplop

harvey i had no flush draw! have another look

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.08
xxx	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£15.32
	Your hole cards	K Q
	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.86
donkeyplop	Raise		£0.16	£0.26	£3.47
	Fold
	Call		£0.16	£0.42	£3.78
	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.12	£0.54	£15.20
	Call		£0.12	£0.66	£3.74
Flop
		2 Q 3
xxx	Bet		£0.66	£1.32	£14.54
	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£1.32	£2.64	£2.15
	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.66	£3.30	£13.88
Turn
		A
xxx	Check
donkeyplop	Check
River
		A
	Bet		£2.16	£5.46	£11.72
donkeyplop	??? hero call ???
	or correct call???

lynx3ffect

he isnt shoving a q there so he pretty much has A4/A5 a lot of the time....

realistic hands he l/c with are Ax or small pp/sconns....all you can beat in that range is a 55-88 kinda hand which has turned into a blufff but more likely they desperate to check that down for showdown 

fold

donkeyplop

what if i said he was raising pre nearly every hand and was being a proper table bully!!!

and he was raising say 10xbb then really firing on the flop if people had called him!!!

imo he was only beating me with ace queen which i would of been very unlucky to be up against.

i waited for a hand where i knew all the money was going in at some point which is exactly what happened!!

maybe i should of just shoved the flop???? or is that a bad idea???