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Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?

edited August 2010 in The Sky Poker Tour
i feel the same eyeman.. even though i play regular in aspers swansea.. the fact that they have chopped the poker room in 2... (the 2nd room is usually that noisy chines dominos thing??) they had enough complaint s about it at the time and lost a few regular players, but they still decided to do it!!

i have never played there but i would suggest the new card room in cardiff bay called croups to be next years south wales venue!! aspers swansea can no longer host over 80++ tournies..

i also missed the fun of tikay on the mic...last years swansea leg was much better than this year!!!

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  • edited July 2010
    A huge thank you to all the staff that did so much at Swansea - especially Big Rich who ran some fun games as well as sit n gos. The usualy thanks to TK, Rich and Ed, and to all the background staff.
    Having done the sycophantic bit, was anyone else just a tad disappointed at the Swansea event compared to the others this year? The 2 rooms was a blow, but there just didn't seem to be the feel that we had at the other events. There were no "all-in - call" moments until near the bubble, and once I was out (admittedly early on), it wasn't at all easy to rail the rest of the players. Some of my disapopointment also comes from people telling me how good Swansea was last year. Time for a new venue perhaps?
    Anyway, here's hoping I see some of the faces at Nottingham in a couple of months.
    And a genuine thank you once again to all concerned.
  • edited July 2010
    I agree also. Was drawn in the little room and had to listen to Tikay's pre tourney chat as it took place in the main room. After busting, played the sngs in the side room and felt completely away from the ME.

    When I tried to rail the last few tables, it was near on impossible due to the closeness of all the tables.

    Absolutely NOTHING against the sky crew. Adam was able to chat with me for ages and I cannot say enough good things about Dave. He spent hours helping me and others with omaha and was a complete gent.  

    I do feel the 2 rooms did spoil the atmosphere though.  At least that won't happen at DTD!
  • edited July 2010

    i missed the brilliant all in commentaries by tikay that characterised glasgow spt.


  • edited July 2010
    It was very hard to get anywhere near the final table, and the heads was with the players facing away from the room and so it was impossible to see chipstacks, action or anything.
  • SPTSPT
    edited July 2010
    All this is fair comment and thank you for the feedback.

    We have to take these issues into consideration for planning future tours and likely venues.

    The "two rooms" point is a big one, not just for atmosphere but also because of how difficult it made logisitics around the final table.
  • edited July 2010
    I suggest grosveners swansea next year
  • edited July 2010


    I had a great weekend in Wales and enjoyed the event and meeting many people I'm used to playing with each night.

    As you seem to be keen to have the feedback, I'll add a couple of points regarding the venue...

    (1) They didn't have enough screens showing the tourney info. There didn't appear to be one in the 2nd room? and only one facing the room in the main area. There was one near me (Table 1) but I was told it was broken. I think it's important to keep an eye on the average stack size.
    (2) The first dealer we had could have had more experience at hold'em. On several occasions she shipped the money to the wrong person (I don't think she knew the hand rankings) and she miss-dealed several times through missing out one seat where there was a no-show. And...

    Anyway, enough of the moaning - it was a great event and I hope to be able to qualify to DTD as soon as poss.

  • edited July 2010

    totally agree with all of the above apart from Ivegotace the only place to go is Les Croupiers Cardiff its a 20 table dealer dealt card room away from the gaming room. the only problem is the food its not as bad as Swansea but its not good when there are 150 to 200 runners

    DAI
  • edited July 2010
    As always I had a great week-end, even though I was out by the first break.  Good to meet up with "old" friends and meet new faces.  The Sky team, as usual, did a superb job.  However, I must agree with much of what has been said by others in this thread.  Hope to make the next one!
  • edited July 2010
    first experience of live play ever, and whilst a little overwhelmed and a lttle drunk, had a great time, albeit a shortish one in the main tourney.

    back to learn my trade online, but now i've had a taste i hope to get some more live action sooner rather than later.

    and good on the guy - big rich? running the fun games - my wife managed to get a 'result' that meant we didn't walk away with absolutely nothing.

    good work all!
  • edited July 2010
    lighten up guys it was a great day and swansea is a top place to have some fun not just poker.the hotels were fantastic well the one i stayed at was.del
  • edited July 2010
    Agreed that the main was a bit rubbish because of the split rooms, although when booked im sure it was actually still 1 room, and also a lack of commentary and "Abuse" from Tikay.

    The structure of the tournament could do with a look at as well I think, I understand the tournament needs to be completed in the 1 day, but why not start either 1 or 2 hours earlier and have more chips or add in a level or 2.

    The sit n go's were great fun, ended up doing an indian poker sit n go which was a great laugh, although it led to me buying a round that totaled £60!!!

    Great weekend overall just a pitty the main was a bit dull compared to others.
  • edited July 2010
    i didnt play last years swansea so cant compare,but the only gripe i have with the tourny is the two rooms....the food was stone cold but it was free so cant complain....all the staff were brilliant as always with ed,rich,dave and sky rich working tirelessly on the sng's.i had a great time then went on the town with a few of the regs,got back at about 630am........

    see you all in notts :)

    ps dont know what you are moaning about flash.......you were in "pole position" all night......
  • edited July 2010
    Bring it to Walsall G Casino, i believe it is now one of the biggest poker rooms in the UK now its added more tables ???
  • edited July 2010
    I think i read that somewhere anyway lol, seems pretty big when i go
  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    i didnt play last years swansea so cant compare,but the only gripe i have with the tourny is the two rooms....the food was stone cold but it was free so cant complain....all the staff were brilliant as always with ed,rich,dave and sky rich working tirelessly on the sng's.i had a great time then went on the town with a few of the regs,got back at about 630am........ see you all in notts :) ps dont know what you are moaning about flash.......you were in "pole position" all night......
    Posted by DAVEYZZ
     Impressed??  I tell you what i'm in the wrong job with my pole dancing skills. Still suffering from that night now 3 days later. We went to the beach after that and didnt get in till 8am, oops!
  • edited July 2010
    most of what has been written is probaly true,but a great weekend anyway.most disapointing thing i thought was the swansea girls wearing those dead long skirts!
  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    Agreed that the main was a bit rubbish because of the split rooms, although when booked im sure it was actually still 1 room, and also a lack of commentary and "Abuse" from Tikay. The structure of the tournament could do with a look at as well I think, I understand the tournament needs to be completed in the 1 day, but why not start either 1 or 2 hours earlier and have more chips or add in a level or 2. The sit n go's were great fun, ended up doing an indian poker sit n go which was a great laugh, although it led to me buying a round that totaled £60!!! Great weekend overall just a pitty the main was a bit dull compared to others.
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Could be worse, you could spend £40 on a poorly executed practical joke!
  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    Agreed that the main was a bit rubbish because of the split rooms, although when booked im sure it was actually still 1 room, and also a lack of commentary and "Abuse" from Tikay. The structure of the tournament could do with a look at as well I think, I understand the tournament needs to be completed in the 1 day, but why not start either 1 or 2 hours earlier and have more chips or add in a level or 2. The sit n go's were great fun, ended up doing an indian poker sit n go which was a great laugh, although it led to me buying a round that totaled £60!!! Great weekend overall just a pitty the main was a bit dull compared to others.
    Posted by FlashFlush
    this was more dissapointing than the two rooms i thought, the structure was bad, I know it's been the same for the other legs but I hadn't heard any complaints from other members so didn't know what it was like. the starting stack was so shallow and the blinds structure was so bad meaning it was a shove fest by the 3rd level because there weren't big enough stacks to play poker with.
  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing? : Could be worse, you could spend £40 on a poorly executed practical joke!
    Posted by Loki-Rogy
    I blame it on the language barrier
  • SPTSPT
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing? : this was more dissapointing than the two rooms i thought, the structure was bad, I know it's been the same for the other legs but I hadn't heard any complaints from other members so didn't know what it was like. the starting stack was so shallow and the blinds structure was so bad meaning it was a shove fest by the 3rd level because there weren't big enough stacks to play poker with.
    Posted by SwansFC

    The structure has to take 150 players to a winner, with breaks, in time for a conclusion around midnight on the same day, with a 2pm start

    It does this.

    It could have an extra early level (75-150) or a slightly larger stack/longer clock leading to a later finish (might well do so if the Tour is being run in 2010-11) but as is it's designed to achieve what I was asked to achieve.

  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing? : The structure has to take 150 players to a winner, with breaks, in time for a conclusion around midnight on the same day, with a 2pm start It does this. It could have an extra early level (75-150) or a slightly larger stack/longer clock leading to a later finish (might well do so if the Tour is being run in 2010-11) but as is it's designed to achieve what I was asked to achieve.
    Posted by SPT
    I understand you have to get it done within one day. My main gripe about the day was after the first 2 levels there wasn't much play left with the blinds and stacks. hopefully this gets looked at for next year
  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing? : I blame it on the language barrier
    Posted by FlashFlush
    I was slurring quite a lot at that point in time... ;)
  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing? : The structure has to take 150 players to a winner, with breaks, in time for a conclusion around midnight on the same day, with a 2pm start It does this. Posted by SPT
    Then the problem is not with the structure, it is the time constraints that you have been given. Is there no scope for starting an hour or two earlier to incorporate the suggested levels for next year's SPT (should there be one?).
  • edited July 2010

    Hi All.

    To address the comments which, in the main, are all of a muchness.

    1) Two Rooms.

    Ugh ugh ugh. As some of you know, both Rich & I had "something to say" about this. We wouldf NEVER have gone there if we'd known. It was 1 room the previous year, but some locals tipped us off about the "wall". So we sought clarification, & let's just say, there was some "confusion" as to how they responded. We went there under the illusion that the "partition" (lol!) between the 2 Rooms would be removed for the day.

    We had a meeting on Monday to review the Swansea Event. Being diplomatic, all I can say is that we will never again go to a Venue where we are forced into 2 seperate rooms.

    We plan to go take a look at Les Croupiers in Cardiff soon. More news when I get it ;)

    2) Commentary, lack of "abuse" etc.

    I'm sorry - I was gutted. I was aching to do the usual "abuse", the "all-in & a call" stuff with added spice. But it just does not work when the players are split into 2 rooms. When it broke to 1 room, the tables were so close together, I could not easily navigate between them at speed, even with the newly reduced waistline. I was not in great form personally, either, as a result of some bad personal stuff going down elsewhere at the time. No excuses though, you got me bang to rights, it was not up to the, or my, usual standard.

    3) Structure.

    It's quite hard to explain this, but the brief is quite clear. Start at the earliest practical time (2pm in our view), & finish around Midnight. Within those constraints, cut it any way you like, but the structure can't be improved.

    That apart, though, it WAS a good day, just, perhaps, not quite as good as usual, or as I'd have wished. The Side Games next door, especially the Tighty SNG's - he's a proper Legend - were awesomely good, & I know from the noise coming from those Tables how much fun everyone had. We actually even had to fight the Mangement to get the Chips for the Side Games!

    Anyways, a big thank you to everyone who attended. Next time, it'll be that little bit better.

    xx
  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    We plan to go take a look at Les Croupiers in Cardiff soon. More news when I get it ;)
    Posted by Tikay10
    Sounds like a good excuse for a reason to go and play some poker courtesy of Sky, I mean have a jolly, I mean go on a reconnaissance mission.
    The Side Games next door, especially the Tighty SNG's - he's a proper Legend - were awesomely good, & I know from the noise coming from those Tables how much fun everyone had.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Side games are the BEST thing about the SPT.  Except maybe cashing but 135 people aren't likely to be doing that.  I had as much fun at Luton as I did at Swansea and never played the main event at Luton.
    We actually even had to fight the Mangement to get the Chips for the Side Games! Anyways, a big thank you to everyone who attended. Next time, it'll be that little bit better. xx
    Posted by Tikay10
    I remember you having your 'discussion' with the Management.  After, as you passed by my table your face said it all, lol.
  • edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing? : Sounds like a good excuse for a reason to go and play some poker courtesy of Sky, I mean have a jolly, I mean go on a reconnaissance mission. Side games are the BEST thing about the SPT.  Except maybe cashing but 135 people aren't likely to be doing that.  I had as much fun at Luton as I did at Swansea and never played the main event at Luton. I remember you having your 'discussion' with the Management.  After, as you passed by my table your face said it all, lol.
    Posted by Machka
    Lol, I am obsessed with Customer Care, & "Excellence", & when peeps fail, & get lippy with me, I can't help myself. So that poor lad who was "in charge" (wtf?) of the Room got a bit sarcy with me, as to why we could not have any more chips, he got both barrels, & some. 
  • edited August 2010
    If the SPT comes back to my neck of the woods in Manchester for Season 3 (if there is another season of course!) and i hope it does then just to let you all know that if those who did SPT Glasgow and stayed in a certain "5 star" hotel well you have your chance to relive those happy memories as there is an Etap Hotel that has been open for just under a year i'm led to believe in nearby Salford Quays which is about a 15 minute drive from G Casino who staged Leg 1 of this year's SPT. :)

    That is all!.......
  • edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Swansea - Just a little bit disappointing?:
    2) Commentary, lack of "abuse" etc. I'm sorry - I was gutted. I was aching to do the usual "abuse", the "all-in & a call" stuff with added spice. But it just does not work when the players are split into 2 rooms. When it broke to 1 room, the tables were so close together, I could not easily navigate between them at speed, even with the newly reduced waistline. I was not in great form personally, either, as a result of some bad personal stuff going down elsewhere at the time. No excuses though, you got me bang to rights, it was not up to the, or my, usual standard. 3) Structure. It's quite hard to explain this, but the brief is quite clear. Start at the earliest practical time (

    Didnt make Swansea, but this was definitely what I missed at Luton. And I fail to see how those beautiful legs of yours cant navigate between a few tables ;-)
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