100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision

scotty77

Hand History #275482180 (21:39 28/07/2010)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
raffles65	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£151.38
YIPEEYAPEE	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£99.00
	Your hole cards	A A
scotty77	Raise		£4.00	£5.50	£138.90
wooderson	Fold
LIONS62	Fold
ajs4385	Raise		£12.00	£17.50	£128.09
raffles65	Fold
YIPEEYAPEE	Fold
scotty77	Raise		£29.00	£46.50	£109.90
ajs4385	Call		£21.00	£67.50	£107.09
Flop
		10 J K
scotty77	Check
ajs4385	Check
Turn
		K
scotty77	Check
ajs4385	Check
River
		7
scotty77	Check
ajs4385	All-in		£107.09	£174.59	£0.00

harvey23

bet flop about £30 and call there shove

e z game.

dav1964

Hmmm all i can think of is A Q or POCKET 7s.I may well call but i reckon i lose.

richtea

Fold. You're losing to so many hands that are in his range. If i were you I'd have put some form of feeler bet out earlier (cue Harvey to slate this play)

beaneh

just find a couple of weird one pair hands that he flats pre and put him on QQ vbetting and cawl.

harvey23

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:

Fold. You're losing to so many hands that are in his range. If i were you I'd have put some form of feeler bet out earlier (cue Harvey to slate this play)
Posted by richtea

yeah feel bet, and fold which is terriable, dont know why people still advise it. It comments like yours that makes me want to snap despoit at skypoker and pwn everyone.


its a 4bet pot, you have AA, hands like these are coolers, In the long run they will all even out and you will be at £0. its like when you have KK v AA all in pre flop, after a year it will even out and you will be on both ends the same amount of time.

This hand is no differnt, just bet and call a shove, sometimes they show JJ, sometimes they show AK and your ahead, it dont really matter, the hand plays it self. its 4bet pre and you have AA OMGZ.

be more worried about the smaller pots were you win and lose 20-50bb each hand, they are the ones that make you a winner or a loser, not these hands which are so standard its un true.

yb

I fold, I can't think of 1 hand that he would play this way that we beat as I'm pretty sure that this villain wouldn't shove QQ here.

Fwiw I like the flop check.

GREGHOGG

He has 1010/ JJ prob, just chuck it

OMahonyO

Out of interest, why did you not bet flop? were you looking to cr?

I cant call river, are these ever bluffs.  Esp with him having another 378 tables to contend with

scotty77

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:

Out of interest, why did you not bet flop? were you looking to cr? I cant call river, are these ever bluffs.  Esp with him having another 378 tables to contend with
Posted by OMahonyO

what is he calling a 4bet with that doesn't conect to that flop?  AK and QQ but I think that he gets QQ in v me pre so only AK that I'm ahead of.

LOL_RAISE

cant believe how bad villain plays this hand tbh.
bet ~20 on flop dont fold win monies ez game

ajs4385

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:

cant believe how bad villain plays this hand tbh. bet ~20 on flop dont fold win monies ez game
Posted by LOL_RAISE

+1

I am one of better regs on site honest.

In my defence I had a couple of other tricky decisions on other tables at same time.

richtea

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:

bet flop about £30 and call there shove e z game.
Posted by harvey23

What's the difference between this and my suggestion of a feeler bet?? I don't recall saying I'd fold if he shoved...

I agree with you that if he then shoves and you call and he shows JJ/TT it's just a cooler, but as the hand panned out I think I'd have to fold.

beaneh

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:

just find a couple of weird one pair hands that he flats pre and put him on QQ vbetting and cawl.
Posted by beaneh

This is the answer to the river.

And dont listen to AJS he's terrible just tells people he's good :P

dav1964

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision : This is the answer to the river. And dont listen to AJS he's terrible just tells people he's good :P
Posted by beaneh

There was more checks in this hand than on a scotsmans kilt so why cant ajs have AQ or 77?

scotty77

AJS put me out of my misery and show me AK plz

looking at it again you never ever play TT/JJ there.  if you turned QQ into a bluff then :top hat off to you sir:

beaneh

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:

In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision : There was more checks in this hand than on a scotsmans kilt so why cant ajs have AQ or 77?
Posted by dav1964

ask AJS