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A little insight to THOSE OTHER poker sites....
Thankfully the experience I am having with Sky Poker, whether I win or lose, is an enjoyable one.
I have found it to be a genuine site without any questionable 'gliches' in its programming. I have played other sites before and the minute you cash out any money..guarenteed and as sure as eggs are eggs, you will go on tilt... every AA busted... every flush out drawn..etc etc...
Anyway, this article was sent to my email inbox by a friend of mine...
I've removed the link as it goes against our Forum Policy, but have cut and pasted the content below. Thanks, Sky Dave
You'll never beat poker robots
The time is 5am. A watery dawn light is bringing a new day into my study; I'm reaching the weary end of a bottle of brandy and a gruelling six-hour internet session on Paradisepoker.com. And I've just haemorrhaged a packet.
It all started so well. I broke even for the first few hours. But since 2am, I've lost £670. They say you should never play poker with any more money than you can afford to take to the bottom of your garden and burn; I can't afford to burn £670.
So now I'm playing like a wild man, trying to claw some funds back. I no longer care about odds or stats; I just want to play every pot, regardless of my cards, and I'm paying out money like a broken fruit machine as a consequence. It's what is known in the trade as 'playing on tilt' - emotion, not logic, is the driver. I'm every poker player's dream opponent.
My sleepless, ruinous night should be music to the ears of the billion-pound online poker industry - after all, the more I play, the more they make in commission. But, as I am about to discover, these poker giants are sleeping even worse than me.
Because the computers they rely on to coin them their fortunes are being turned against them. And it could cost them their entire empires.
How poker robots work
To explain why, we must fast-forward 24 hours after my marathon poker disaster. Because now I've made a new friend to help me with my online poker, and he's making me decent money - at five tables simultaneously. So far we're averaging £20 profit an hour - and my friend doesn't take breaks. He'll go on playing forever, he'll never flag or make a wrong call and he won't become depressed or euphoric. This is because he is, of course, a computer.
It's very simple, it's legal and no one on the other side of the screen will ever know. I've run a cable from the PC showing the game - or, rather, games - into a laptop running some specialist poker software.
This displays an information-only Etch A Sketch-like rendering of the poker tables; the cards, the betting, the players contending the pot. The laptop is making millions of different computations based upon the strength of my hand and how the others are betting. Then it places 'my' bet. I don't have to lift a finger or even be in the room.
If you're a poker player, this is merely unethical. But if you're an executive or shareholder in one of the top poker websites, the advent of programs that play for you is very bad news indeed.
Online poker is a £3bn-a-year industry - £3m is gambled on online poker every day in Britain alone (we're now the fifth biggest gambling country in the world). But this depends on the punters knowing they're getting a fair game. When they're up against expertly programmed computer players, then they are, quite emphatically, not.
And if these programs evolve as fast as the experts predict, online poker is nothing more than a busted flush.
You can't beat poker robots
One expert in this powerful new software, 'Chopper', tells me, 'It's amazing to think of how much we gamble on online poker sites - mainly because there is no such thing as a fair game of online poker. It just doesn't exist.
The game is completely corrupt; it has zero integrity. Online players are secretly using every means at their disposal to fleece you - and at the forefront of their campaign is the use of poker robots. When all this becomes public knowledge, the amateurs will leave and the game will die.'
Ten years ago, poker in general was nowhere. Now it's huge. In August this year, poker tournaments were broadcast on nine separate UK TV channels. Organisations such as the World Poker Tour have shaped the game into a small-screen adrenaline hit; there's even been a poker storyline on The Archers.
Online poker has ridden on the back of poker's new appeal to become the internet success story. It's easy to join in - you sign on to a site such as 888.com or Party Poker, submit your credit card number and start to play on a 'table' showing yourself and your opponents. Only you can see your own cards, of course; everyone can see the five shared cards that feature in the most popular poker variation, Texas Hold 'Em, and with which you make your strongest five-card hand.
All those who are still 'in' at the end of the last betting round have their cards revealed, and the computer flags up the winner, adjusting everyone's cash totals accordingly.
As well as winning on the night, if you're good and lucky you can also win entry to high-rolling tournaments associated with the website; all of which explains why American-owned Paradise Poker's average daily profit in one month earlier this year was £169,000.
It makes very interesting reading and before there is any ''who you calling a cheat'' thrown this way.....I am not pointing any fingers at anyone on this site. I really think this is something worth sharing with you guys at sky poker...
Good Luck all
P.S. there is no adware, viruses,worms etc etc in this link..it is genuine and safe
I have found it to be a genuine site without any questionable 'gliches' in its programming. I have played other sites before and the minute you cash out any money..guarenteed and as sure as eggs are eggs, you will go on tilt... every AA busted... every flush out drawn..etc etc...
Anyway, this article was sent to my email inbox by a friend of mine...
I've removed the link as it goes against our Forum Policy, but have cut and pasted the content below. Thanks, Sky Dave
You'll never beat poker robots
The time is 5am. A watery dawn light is bringing a new day into my study; I'm reaching the weary end of a bottle of brandy and a gruelling six-hour internet session on Paradisepoker.com. And I've just haemorrhaged a packet.
It all started so well. I broke even for the first few hours. But since 2am, I've lost £670. They say you should never play poker with any more money than you can afford to take to the bottom of your garden and burn; I can't afford to burn £670.
So now I'm playing like a wild man, trying to claw some funds back. I no longer care about odds or stats; I just want to play every pot, regardless of my cards, and I'm paying out money like a broken fruit machine as a consequence. It's what is known in the trade as 'playing on tilt' - emotion, not logic, is the driver. I'm every poker player's dream opponent.
My sleepless, ruinous night should be music to the ears of the billion-pound online poker industry - after all, the more I play, the more they make in commission. But, as I am about to discover, these poker giants are sleeping even worse than me.
Because the computers they rely on to coin them their fortunes are being turned against them. And it could cost them their entire empires.
How poker robots work
To explain why, we must fast-forward 24 hours after my marathon poker disaster. Because now I've made a new friend to help me with my online poker, and he's making me decent money - at five tables simultaneously. So far we're averaging £20 profit an hour - and my friend doesn't take breaks. He'll go on playing forever, he'll never flag or make a wrong call and he won't become depressed or euphoric. This is because he is, of course, a computer.
It's very simple, it's legal and no one on the other side of the screen will ever know. I've run a cable from the PC showing the game - or, rather, games - into a laptop running some specialist poker software.
This displays an information-only Etch A Sketch-like rendering of the poker tables; the cards, the betting, the players contending the pot. The laptop is making millions of different computations based upon the strength of my hand and how the others are betting. Then it places 'my' bet. I don't have to lift a finger or even be in the room.
If you're a poker player, this is merely unethical. But if you're an executive or shareholder in one of the top poker websites, the advent of programs that play for you is very bad news indeed.
Online poker is a £3bn-a-year industry - £3m is gambled on online poker every day in Britain alone (we're now the fifth biggest gambling country in the world). But this depends on the punters knowing they're getting a fair game. When they're up against expertly programmed computer players, then they are, quite emphatically, not.
And if these programs evolve as fast as the experts predict, online poker is nothing more than a busted flush.
You can't beat poker robots
One expert in this powerful new software, 'Chopper', tells me, 'It's amazing to think of how much we gamble on online poker sites - mainly because there is no such thing as a fair game of online poker. It just doesn't exist.
The game is completely corrupt; it has zero integrity. Online players are secretly using every means at their disposal to fleece you - and at the forefront of their campaign is the use of poker robots. When all this becomes public knowledge, the amateurs will leave and the game will die.'
Ten years ago, poker in general was nowhere. Now it's huge. In August this year, poker tournaments were broadcast on nine separate UK TV channels. Organisations such as the World Poker Tour have shaped the game into a small-screen adrenaline hit; there's even been a poker storyline on The Archers.
Online poker has ridden on the back of poker's new appeal to become the internet success story. It's easy to join in - you sign on to a site such as 888.com or Party Poker, submit your credit card number and start to play on a 'table' showing yourself and your opponents. Only you can see your own cards, of course; everyone can see the five shared cards that feature in the most popular poker variation, Texas Hold 'Em, and with which you make your strongest five-card hand.
All those who are still 'in' at the end of the last betting round have their cards revealed, and the computer flags up the winner, adjusting everyone's cash totals accordingly.
As well as winning on the night, if you're good and lucky you can also win entry to high-rolling tournaments associated with the website; all of which explains why American-owned Paradise Poker's average daily profit in one month earlier this year was £169,000.
It makes very interesting reading and before there is any ''who you calling a cheat'' thrown this way.....I am not pointing any fingers at anyone on this site. I really think this is something worth sharing with you guys at sky poker...
Good Luck all
P.S. there is no adware, viruses,worms etc etc in this link..it is genuine and safe
Comments
I'm going to have to read that again when sober. It's bookmarked.
But, hmmm.
Some people refuse to believe that this goes on, but it does. I posted a link in the thread a good while back and it was quickly deleted. There are whole forums out there which are dedicated to these bots and the programming of them etc.
Actually, upon reading some of these forums, you can sort of understand the enjoyment ppl get out of it. They must get self satisfaction reprogramming and tweaking their bots to get that little bit more of a winrate, as much for pride as financial gain as they are mostly techies and that is their passion.
People even program bots, prove their winrate, then these bots can be sold for thousands.
However, from what I read, there are not many, if any , at the moment that could consistantly beat nl50 or above. I suppose beating the next level is the holy grail for these techies.
The simple reason is that not that many ppl pay attention to what is going on at the micros, so the bots can play abc and make money. As you move up the levels, this wont work as ppl are starting to pay attention and play back at bots style.
If you suspect you are playing against a bot, you can contact the poker site, these have different methods in detecting bots. One off the top of my head is, they will send the player in question a message box in the middle of play, asking them to type in a certain code that is displayed in front of them. Obviously if there was not a human in front of the screen this could not be done. Thats just one way, there are quite a few.
All interesting stuff though....
HAVING RESEARCHED THIS QUIET A BIT ,
IN MY OPINION I BELIEVE THIS WILL BECOME,
A VERY BIG PROBLEM IN ONLINE POKER !
CUT AND PASTED FROM A PREVIOUS THREAD
pokerstars name : rs03rs03
recorded data from nov 2009 to mar 2010 over 173,000 games played :
games played in total 228,330 lol !
most games played in one day 2072 !
it or he/she has played 250 games in 2 hours and the rest .
check the name out on sharkscope its worth a look lol !
Just to let you know bots accounts have been identified and banned ,on other sites, they were all in profit.....
but to be honest i dont think there are any on here ....