NL30 - Small Pair OOP

YoungUn

Player X is very solid. Have notes on him that he's capable of slowplaying big pairs pre-flop and strong top-pair hands when HU with pre-flop raiser. No reads on Player Y.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£40.96
YoungUn	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£29.48
	Your hole cards	4 4
Player X	Raise		£0.90	£1.35	£54.65
	Fold
Player Y	Raise		£2.70	£4.05	£23.58
	Fold
	Fold
YoungUn

My notes lead me to believe that player X's UTG raising range is weighted towards (but obv isn't limited to) AK and JJ+. In the short time that i'd been on the table he's only shown down 2 big pocket pairs. Player Y hasn't been busy enough to raise any suspicions.

Since I'm giving Player X credit for a pretty big hand, and my notes say that he's capable of playing them slowly pre-flop, do we still call and hope that he doesn't 4-bet? Can we set-mine profitably assuming there is no 4-bet? Am I being too nitty and giving Player X too much credit and should call this all day long?

GREGHOGG

Interesting question.

I probably fold tbh, im not feeling comfortable in this spot really..,

although im guessing a few people will attempt to set mine as you have big implied odds with the strength shown thus far. you bink your set its payday innit....

i have no idea whether it is profitable longterm to flat in this spot and im not gonna pretend that i know this answer, where are the maths boffins when you need em...

TommyD

Fold.

X is capable of slow playing a big hand but they are unlikely to do this against two players if they are solid.  The fear is if you flat Y's three-bet and then X four bets you've got a lot of dead money in there.  If your read on X is strong then get out of the way.

harvey23

easy fold, dont even know why you made a thread about it. you dont get odds to setmine in 3bet pots 100b deep.

waynec

I asked a simular question about small PPs in a thread and from that the feeling was in this situation get out of the way, I think you have to dump um cus there is no way u can pump um.

beaneh

Big fat fold.

donkeyplop

FOR ME AN EASY FOLD BUT IM A NIT.

youngun what were you doing sat at my 4nl table yesterday???

i had you and pattyk whos a 50nl reg sat there at one point!!!

i thought id sat at the wrong stake table lol

waynec

In Response to Re: NL30 - Small Pair OOP:

FOR ME AN EASY FOLD BUT IM A NIT. youngun what were you doing sat at my 4nl table yesterday??? i had you and pattyk whos a 50nl reg sat there at one point!!! i thought id sat at the wrong stake table lol
Posted by donkeyplop

Hey donkeyplop your becoming quite a mr/(ms) popular did I not visit you at your table too tonight? I was a bit shocked about the cross dressing thing though but we will keep it between ourselfs m8 .... shhh mums the word

donkeyplop

In Response to Re: NL30 - Small Pair OOP:

In Response to Re: NL30 - Small Pair OOP : Hey donkeyplop your becoming quite a mr/(ms) popular did I not visit you at your table too tonight? I was a bit shocked about the cross dressing thing though but we will keep it between ourselfs m8 .... shhh mums the word
Posted by waynecure

lol shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

im a laaaaaaady

YOUNG_GUN

Fold like a mo fo, far to expensive to set mine even with implied odds. also if you flat call their is no gurantee player still to act will just call

YoungUn

I did fold. Was put on monkey tilt that Player X just called the 3-bet, and then the first card out on the flop was a 4. After seeing that I tried convincing myself that I could have called, decided to double-check here to stop me being results orientated.

In Response to Re: NL30 - Small Pair OOP:

youngun what were you doing sat at my 4nl table yesterday???
Posted by donkeyplop

Had to withdraw most of my bankroll to pay for a weekend away, leaving me with a very safe roll for NL4 and NL8. Wanted to try and build it back up the "proper" way, by grinding those levels (hence why I was on your table yesterday) because I don't have any spare money to deposit atm, but I don't enjoy playing like a robot over 6 tables. I feel much more comfortable playing one or two tables at NL20 and NL30 despite the fact that it's horrible BRM.

YOUNG_GUN

lol youngun you even sound like me :P

theneons

In Response to Re: NL30 - Small Pair OOP:

I did fold. Was put on monkey tilt that Player X just called the 3-bet, and then the first card out on the flop was a 4. After seeing that I tried convincing myself that I could have called, decided to double-check here to stop me being results orientated. In Response to Re: NL30 - Small Pair OOP : Had to withdraw most of my bankroll to pay for a weekend away, leaving me with a very safe roll for NL4 and NL8. Wanted to try and build it back up the "proper" way, by grinding those levels (hence why I was on your table yesterday) because I don't have any spare money to deposit atm, but I don't enjoy playing like a robot over 6 tables. I feel much more comfortable playing one or two tables at NL20 and NL30 despite the fact that it's horrible BRM.
Posted by YoungUn

+1

thats why ive stepped down for a bit.