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Ethical chat!
I have AA in SB player raises mid position, I 3bet then he 4bets me.
While letting time bank run down I say in chat box "OK lets race" and shove the lot. I get my call he has QQ and a nice pay out.
Another player said this is unethical as I was saying I had AK, I never mentioned any hand and was trying to get the other player to get all his chips in the middle.
Myself see nowt wrong in trying to talk any opponent into a fold/call with mis-information ect as long as I dont name any cards in my hand.
While letting time bank run down I say in chat box "OK lets race" and shove the lot. I get my call he has QQ and a nice pay out.
Another player said this is unethical as I was saying I had AK, I never mentioned any hand and was trying to get the other player to get all his chips in the middle.
Myself see nowt wrong in trying to talk any opponent into a fold/call with mis-information ect as long as I dont name any cards in my hand.
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Think the fact you have said that could be why they called, as it does sound like underpair or AK dont know how it would go down with most, i personally wouldn't mind if you did against me but think its not really good etiquette
also, if any1 sez that to me im folding soooo often.
The problem is when you typed in the chatbox "ok lets race" indicates that you have AK, so the QQ will call because she/he thinks they are a 57% fave to win the hand, when actualy they are a 19% underdog, a race in poker means this:In NL Hold'em, when two players are all-in preflop, each having roughly a 50/50 chance of winning the pot. Usually a pocket pair against a hand like big slick, unfortunately it is poor Poker Etiquett.
He could equally be indicating that he has JJ and he thinks that his opponent has two overcards.
It's pretty ordinary speech play.
First hand i had 44 i raised everyone folded, i showed as i was friendly with them all and had a little friendly banter. Next had without even looking at my cards i said "Oh 44 again" just out of the mood. I still didnt look at my cards and min-raised and seen a 3-bet and i said "lets go set mining"
The flop came 445, "oh quads now" i still hadnt looked at my cards at this point and was fully joking with a guy i used to play at home with.
I bet he called. Turn a K. Ibet he raises i shove, he folds showing KK for Kings full. Pureley believeing my speech play. I then admitted not looking at mycards, and it turned out i had 45 for the flopped house.
My punnishment was deserved i know at the time i was out of order, although i never actually named both my cards id accidently named one of them.
Anyways Speech play FTW
Cheers Barry
lol
Firstly we all know that to correctly name cards in your hand during the playing of the hand is against the rules so we know that any info given out naming exact cards must be a lie or a breach of these rules.(not sure how this rule is or can be policed online).
So we must think of why someone would talk during a hand about the hand in play.They would do it either to gain information on their opponent or to plant false information.With this in mind most sensible people will ignore any chat about the hand whilst it is still in play because there is no benefit to them in what is being said.
A player who makes his play based on a comment in the chatbox is playing suboptimally and deserves everything that they get.In this particular hand i do not believe your opponent was folding anyway so i believe your comment was not needed.But if he made the call based on your comment then give me his name so i can play against him.
So for me this type of thing is perfectly within the bounds of etiquette because you are within all of the rules and just sending out false signals about your card strength. We all do that with our bets so why not with our words.
Toughen up .......... it's poker not the local crochet club.
is that 1 - 1 now?
Just as a foot note it was a player not in the hand that read me the riot act after the hand was over not the guy losing the pot, this is what made me wonder if I was out of order.
it wasnt you mate it was someone this afternoon.
im pretty sure u said that q3 hand after it had finished....
In Response to Re: Ethical chat!: I agree