Tough spot with KK

yb

Villain is a really solid reg who doesn't bluff very much at all, I'm also pretty sure she wouldn't play AQ this way very much if ever. I've been playing fairly aggro this session and I've seen her call me down 2 streets with 2nd pair. Normally I think her pf calling range would be 99-QQ,AQ+ but I guess it could be a bit wider here as we're playing over 150bbs deep. So what would you do in this spot?

coaley001	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£510.67
jakally	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£109.65
EVILEDNA	Sit out
	Your hole cards	K K
style2737	Call		£1.00	£2.50	£165.33
villain	Raise		£4.00	£6.50	£173.32
yb	Raise		£14.00	£20.50	£162.21
coaley001	Fold
jakally	Fold
style2737	Fold
villain	Call		£10.00	£30.50	£163.32
Flop
		Q 6 10
villain	Check
yb	Bet		£21.00	£51.50	£141.21
villain	Raise		£57.25	£108.75	£106.07
yb	Call		£36.25	£145.00	£104.96
Turn
		9
villain	All-in		£106.07	£251.07	£0.00

theneons

slow playing Queens? i would have played the hand exactly like this if the vil was me. why else c/r AI?

YOUNG_GUN

stinks of aces, but have to have some balls to fold here

have read villains tendencies have you seen them shove pre with AA before? or do they usually try to get value?

Could have Queens also

Mohican

Looks like a flopped set with a pocket pair as AA, i think, would've four bet pre flop.But AQ is also a possibility therefore I would've folded or reraised all in on the flop. They've got less than a pot size bet on the turn and the only move on the turn is an all-in.So if you think you're ahead, shove on the flop.

TopTopGun

I would have 3-bet all in on the flop, if you have ran into a cooler then so be it. But if your real confident on your reads of this player then you can lay down the kings.

beaneh

OMG CALL AND HIT A JACK

is your opponent, 'da bomb' lol?

waynec

Got to be a set or Q, AA u wud be all in by now pre, looks like they could be defending against a board with a lot of draws, you would expect a check/raise if they had hit their str8 IMO which is not woth much lol.

christiann

Pocket 10's

beaneh

also depends whether they know that you should not normally have KK lol.

yb

I didnt 3 bet the flop because I'm never getting called by worse ever, and am pretty sure that the villain wouldnt start calling 3 bets oop with KJ/AJs etc oop 150bbs deep so that takes away basically any draws they can have. In the end I just folded because I couldnt put the villain on any hand that I could beat.

yb

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK:

also depends whether they know that you should not normally have KK lol.
Posted by beaneh

lol why shouldn't i?

and check your pm's bluuuud

beaneh

obv depends on who this is, but against some you just cant fold. against others you really can fold the flop LOL!

beaneh

i've replied though not quite sure why :-P

Mohican

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK:

I didnt 3 bet the flop because I'm never getting called by worse ever, and am pretty sure that the villain wouldnt start calling 3 bets oop with KJ/AJs etc oop 150bbs deep so that takes away basically any draws they can have. In the end I just folded because I couldnt put the villain on any hand that I could beat.
Posted by yb

If you're not gonna reraise postflop , why did you call? All that happened by calling is delaying the decision and costing you £36.

beaneh

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK:

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK : If you're not gonna reraise postflop , why did you call? All that happened by calling is delaying the decision and costing you £36.
Posted by Mohican

if they can have a set then we are well behind

if they have a fd they have ~36%, if we call flop we still are crushed by sets but fd chance of improving has halved.

yb

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK:

i've replied though not quite sure why :-P
Posted by beaneh

Lol safe g xx

yb

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK:

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK : If you're not gonna reraise postflop , why did you call? All that happened by calling is delaying the decision and costing you £36.
Posted by Mohican

If they can have fds/pure bluffs/AQ when they raise but then never double-barrel with these unimproved calling the flop and folding the turn is best, but you're right I think I could have just folded the flop in this case tbh.

beaneh

mbe even check back frop.

simuk

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK:

mbe even check back frop.
Posted by beaneh

Dont do this... 

Against anyone good or aggro this is a snap call on the turn... or even a flop 3bet

Against a nit or someone you think to be scared money, I think you can almost fold the flop...

beaneh

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK:

In Response to Re: Tough spot with KK : Dont do this...  Against anyone good or aggro this is a snap call on the turn... or even a flop 3bet Against a nit or someone you think to be scared money, I think you can almost fold the flop...
Posted by simuk

c back flop is with reads you fishy. go run good in a tourny.