another call or fold moment!!!!!

donkeyplop

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tosca21	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.24
manda22	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.02
	Your hole cards	K Q
tzaneen	Fold
mack04	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£3.42
xxx	Call		£0.16	£0.38	£7.38
tosca21	Fold
manda22	Fold
Flop
		9 8 K
donkeyplop	Bet		£0.38	£0.76	£3.04
xxx	Call		£0.38	£1.14	£7.00
Turn
		10
donkeyplop	Bet		£0.57	£1.71	£2.47
xxx	All-in		£7.00	£8.71	£0.00
donkeyplop	???

donkeyplop

ok flop top pair turn flush draw then he shoves on me!!!!!!!!!!!!

what do you do???

i guessed i was behind so was a call +ev here?

Dudeskin8

Just call he could have anything at this level plus you have redraw. Also start hand with £4 in future and turn bet could be bigger.

SHANXTA

any reads?

how has this player almost doubled their stack?

donkeyplop

i started hand with 3.58.

ive got into a habbit of only topping up when i go under £3. not sure why?

donkeyplop

In Response to Re: another call or fold moment!!!!!:

any reads? how has this player almost doubled their stack?
Posted by SHANXTA

this!

ignore my limp with ace10

also another tight fold by me on flop had feeling i was behind!!

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tosca21	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.91
manda22	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.72
	Your hole cards	A 10
tzaneen	All-in		£0.03	£0.09	£0.00
mack04	Fold
donkeyplop	Call		£0.04	£0.13	£3.96
xxx	Raise		£0.08	£0.21	£4.03
tosca21	Call		£0.06	£0.27	£4.85
manda22	Fold
donkeyplop	Call		£0.04	£0.31	£3.92
Flop
		10 J 7
tosca21	Bet		£0.04	£0.35	£4.81
donkeyplop	Call		£0.04	£0.39	£3.88
xxx	Raise		£0.08	£0.47	£3.95
tosca21	Raise		£0.08	£0.55	£4.73
donkeyplop	Fold
xxx	Raise		£0.08	£0.63	£3.87
tosca21	Raise		£0.54	£1.17	£4.19
xxx	Raise		£1.00	£2.17	£2.87
tosca21	Raise		£3.17	£5.34	£1.02
xxx	All-in		£2.87	£8.21	£0.00
tosca21	Call		£0.20	£8.41	£0.82
tosca21	Show	9 8
tzaneen	Show	6 3
xxx	Show	7 7
Turn
		9
River
		J
xxx	Win	Full House, 7s and Jacks	£7.78		£7.78

The_Don90

Hand 1 - i snap call if im behind, i have K, Q and J aswell as diamonds to hit.

Hand 2 - snap fold. Why limp pre????

SHANXTA

ok so when he hits hard he raises, infact min raises like a genuis

anyway, he's flatted the flop against you, presuming he's not gonna be mixing up his play, its unlikely lets be honest, we can presume that your good on the flop.

he takes off on the turn, the 10 must have improved his hand KT? T9? maybe even T8? i think QJ is unlikely because of the push but its still a possibility?

so if you use that range, plus any others you wanna throw in there, do we have the price to call with our hand?

DOHHHHHHH

Dnt worry about what he has, let him have 2 cards of his choice, Im still calling.

Still owe u £2.06.

When do u wanna play hu?

donkeyplop

didnt want advice on hand 2 lol.

but cheers anyway.

ok in first hand vil had aa.

now do you call??

and dohhhhhh i can play later im going out for dinner so wont be back until later..................

i will have some heads up stella b4 i come back!!

LOL_RAISE

if we know he has aces, then you do some simple maths and work out if it is profitable to do so.


i imagine it probably isnt.

donkeyplop

hard to work all that out in 15 seconds

waynec

I would have bet the pot with your redraws put the pressure on him, maybe your half pot bet gave your hand away as I have played with you and this seems smaller than your usual bet size??????

kudosss

I dont understand why you would bet the turn if your not snap calling that bet tbh. I think the bet is good but only if your doing it to induce the push. KK QQQ 9diamonds JJJJ aswell as either 888 or 999 or 101010. This is the assumption hes got 2 pair which i think is the hand you should factor in, if hes got less GREAT if hes got more you still have your draws.

Thats 18/21 outs how can you fold?

18 if the 2 pair includes a K

Batkin88

Typical player slow playing aces and then realising there hand will get beat if they dont shove! Hard read but good fold i wouldnt or been able to not call, but well done so many things he could of had and u knew u had to hit the river to win really NICE FOLD

donkeyplop

i never said id folded and i actually made the call!!!!!

his aces held up grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

thats why i wasnt sure if id made the right call???

id say 80% of the time there i would fold but fancied a gamble knowing i had quite a few outs..............

Batkin88

fair enough well nearly nice fold