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2 - 10 handed hands, pre flop folds cant get my head around them right or wrong?

edited September 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Both Fairly early so no reads at all, neither got told what others had or saw just my instincts told me to fold. after that got my way back in only to do terrible call which crippled me in 6th poor effort

Hand 1
JohnConnor Small blind   10.00 10.00 1470.00
darich Big blind   20.00 30.00 3010.00
  Your hole cards
  • 10
  • 10
     
terry1953 Fold        
DAIBOOT Fold        
YOUNG_GUN Raise   160.00 190.00 1340.00
GREGHOGG Fold        
tia969 Raise   300.00 490.00 1140.00
richiemw Fold        
empera08 Fold        
JohnConnor Fold        
darich Fold        
YOUNG_GUN Fold        
tia969 Muck        
tia969 Win   350.00   1490.00
tia969 Return   140.00 0.00 1630.00

Comments

  • edited September 2010
    Hand 2
    terry1953 Small blind   10.00 10.00 1530.00
    DAIBOOT Big blind   20.00 30.00 1480.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
         
    YOUNG_GUN Raise   100.00 130.00 1240.00
    GREGHOGG Fold        
    tia969 Call   100.00 230.00 1510.00
    richiemw Fold        
    empera08 Fold        
    JohnConnor Raise   400.00 630.00 1070.00
    darich Fold        
    terry1953 Fold        
    DAIBOOT Call   380.00 1010.00 1100.00
    YOUNG_GUN Fold        
    tia969 Call   300.00 1310.00 1210.00
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 9
    • J
         
    DAIBOOT Bet   240.00 1550.00 860.00
    tia969 All-in   1210.00 2760.00 0.00
    JohnConnor All-in   1070.00 3830.00 0.00
    DAIBOOT Fold        
    tia969 Unmatched bet   140.00 3690.00 140.00
    tia969 Show
    • J
    • 10
         
    JohnConnor Show
    • K
    • K
         
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    River
       
    • 10
         
    tia969 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s 3690.00   3830.00
  • edited September 2010
    Even worse played, thought i hit good spot how wrong lol, tiredness not good
    terry1953 Small blind   50.00 50.00 3447.50
    YOUNG_GUN Big blind   100.00 150.00 1010.00
      Your hole cards
    • 5
    • 7
         
    GREGHOGG Fold        
    tia969 Call   100.00 250.00 3692.50
    richiemw Fold        
    darich Fold        
    terry1953 Fold        
    YOUNG_GUN Check        
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • 5
    • 10
         
    YOUNG_GUN Check        
    tia969 Check        
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    YOUNG_GUN Bet   250.00 500.00 760.00
    tia969 Call   250.00 750.00 3442.50
    River
       
    • 3
         
    YOUNG_GUN Check        
    tia969 Bet   562.50 1312.50 2880.00
    YOUNG_GUN Call   562.50 1875.00 197.50
    tia969 Show
    • 10
    • 8
         
    YOUNG_GUN Muck
    • 5
    • 7
         
    tia969 Win Two Pairs, 10s and 3s 1875.00   4755.00
  • edited September 2010
    why do u 8x the tens and 5x the AQ?
  • edited September 2010
    no set amount shanx, first one due to position and 10 handed. 2nd one lost a bit previous so wanted to make cheaper and re-evaluate if raised, if 1 on 1 i could have commited but not with a big raise and call before
  • edited September 2010
    cheaper? 5x is still really big!

    i think by 8x'n the tens in early pos you're asking for trouble as you can only get action when ur beat/AK

    personally i 3/4x the AQ, and then fold
  • edited September 2010
    I really don't think you can 8x it and then fold to a min 3 bet
  • edited September 2010
    8x fold wt f only got that far
  • edited September 2010
    sorry reason for my fold, whenever someone min bets re-raises a big pre-size bet my gut will always say has aces/kings etc, eveytime i call they do so i thought rather then confirm it iwould rather fold give myself a chance as its only early doors. reason for such a big bet is 10 handed, so shouldn't really stick to same preflop raises do you think?

    if this was 6 handied i would never be raising too much but with 10 handed need to be tighter and more aggressive when you have it hence why big bet, didnt think that was the problem i asked a question and got answer so folded

    although for all i know they could have had AK or similar, i still wasnt sure about the fold as didnt want to call as would need a low flop or a 10 to be confident so then your in shove territory and i think bit early to be pushing with 10s pre

    appreciate thoughts please
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