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BELIEVE IT OR BELIEVE IT NOT? RNG!

IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
edited September 2010 in Area 51


believe it or believe it not ?

i think not !



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What does RNG mean?

Poker RNG stands for Poker Random Number Generator. Every online poker website uses a certain RNG to generate random numbers which ideally leads to random cards.

However, no computer can possibly generate a completely random number. The numbers are generated using a very sophisticated formula. This formula is essentially what we call RNG. If the RNG of a poker website is found by a player, he will know the cards on the flop, turn, river, as well as other players hole cards. As every poker player knows, this will give dominating advantage to the cheater/hacker. It is important to mention that online poker websites change their RNGs bi-weekly or some even every week. While this does not stop the hackers to find the new RNG, it slows it down a lot.

Random number generation is such a wide field that you can even get your math degree concentration or masters in it. Random number generators produce random numbers using different methods. They used to produce them using the computer date/time. which led to a crack down of their RNG by a group of hackers (You can read the news here). Nowadays, they use other methods such as radio frequencies.

There are softwares out there that claim that they can track the POKER RNG and predict the community cards, other player's cards and so forth. Read the rest of the article to find the answer to your questions:

What is Poker RNG?(Priced at $457)

Poker RNG is a softwares that claim that it can figure the RNG formula of poker websites out. Therefore it can predict the community cards, the dominant suit on the flop, and hole cards of two other players at the table.

The way it works is that you punch in your Hole Cards and the Community Cards in the software (A screen shot of the actual software is shown below). Then based on it's database (which has been built by you) it will predict the flop, dominant suit on the flop and hole cards of two players at the table with an accuracy of 99.9%.

Screen shot of the actual Poker RNG software.

How does Poker RNG predict the upcoming hands?

As I said in the last section, you will have to build a database for your Poker RNG. A different database is needed for every different website and even different ones for the ring games and the tournaments. The database is built by you as the user punching your hole cards and the community cards in the software.

Poker RNG uses the database entered by you, to figure out the Random Number Generator shuffling system. For the software to be able to make the predictions with 99.9% accuracy a database of over 2000 hands is needed (According to their website)

Until the database is completed the software can not - supposedly - predict as accurate as possible. There are different levels of accuracy based on the number of entered hands in the database. Following is a copy-paste of the section on Accuracy-Based-on-Database taken directly from the Poker RNG manual.

Before we go further with this I want to make two important notes:
  • you enter a hand (your hole cards and the community cards) in the database it is only considered a complete hand if it goes all the way to the river. So to build a database of 2000 hands you would need to play more like 3000 actual hands. I think this is very important to pay attention if you are seriously thinking about purchasing Poker RNG. Because it requires a very time consuming start up to build the database.
  • Also once the database is built, you will need to play approximately 300 to 400 hands a week to keep the database updated. As I said before most online poker websites change their RNG shuffling bi-weekly. So Poker RNG needs to keep itself updated with that too.

Hands 1 through 300

From 1 to 300 hands you will see some results, mainly low accuracy results and some 80% accuracy results. Please remember what was said above about accuracy. The accuracy level will not be truly accurate until it says the same accuracy constantly. If it jumps from Low to 80% and back to low, that specific 80% hand will not truly be 80% until each and every hand is showing either 80% or higher.

Hands 301 through 800

During this time frame you will notice more matches and more results. You should start seeing more 80% accuracy readings and barely any “More Data Needed” readings. It is still normal to jump from “Low Accuracy” and then back up to “Accuracy 80%”. Not all cards are supposed to match in this range!

Hands 801 through 1500

This is when you will see solid matches, higher accuracy and more direct hits. But remember, until the results are displayed as 99% every time, it will not be at the optimal level. You should be averaging at least 4 hands out of 10 where 2 cards are right.

Hands 1501 through 2200

You are very close to full accuracy. You will see accurate read-outs 6 times out of 10, a lot of direct matches and few times where almost all of the data is correct.

Hands 2201 +

You should now be very close to or already at 99% accuracy for each and every hand shown. If you have not been seeing the river often enough, your database will require more hands entered.

Is it legal to own and/or use Poker RNG?

Poker RNG is not illegal to own (This could differ from state to state as it is illegal to own any gambling cheating devices in some states including Nevada - but I'm not sure if a software can be considered a device or not).

However almost none of poker websites allow external poker softwares to be used along with their server. If the online poker websites find out that a player is using external software, colluding, or using any other cheat methods they will temporarily close the poker account and put it under investigation. Once they believe (not necessarily prove) that the player has been cheating, they will close the poker account permanently and take the money in that account away.

Some poker websites including Party Poker, look for softwares that are being run with their poker software and try to track the cheating ones (mainly the poker robots) down. However, it is not required for Poker RNG to be run on the same computer as the poker software is being run. In fact Poker RNG user manual suggests that the players should use a separate computer to punch it the database and check the predictions so there is absolutely no relationship between the two software. That way it can not be detected by the poker websites at all.

Does Poker RNG really work?

The only people who could answer this question would be the ones who actually used it. However if someone used it and later said that it doesn't work, would you really believe them? If it does work of course they want less competition for themselves.

I personally do not think that it should work. Pay attention the way I phrased it. I don't think that it should work. I have two logics for that:

  • Online poker websites make at least a million dollar a night each. If I had a business like that, I would never allow a $500 software destroy the trust between me and my customers. I have no doubt that the actual owners of online poker websites would do the same. Even if that meant paying Poker RNG's owner all the money he could possibly make by selling the software in order to stop the sale of the software. That is assuming that the software works and online websites would buy the software company.
  • You are a poker player yourself. You know what a great advantage it would be if you knew the community cards (forget about the dominant suit and other players hole cards). If you had a software that would have done that for you, would you sell it for a lousy $500? or would you use it and make millions playing online poker? That is my second reason why I don't believe the software actually works.

How much does Poker RNG cost? Where can I buy it from? Is it worth the price?

Poker RNG costs $457. I have not been able to find a cheaper version. Every customer is given an ID associated with their email address. You will need the email address to login to the software each time you open Poker RNG. This is used to stop illegal copying of Poker RNG.

Poker RNG can be purchased at Poker RNG website(Power Poker Secrets).

Whether it's worth the price or not is really up to you to decide. I have given you every information I have about the software. So go ahead and decide whether you want to give it a shot or not. I purchased Poker RNG myself and worked with it for less than a week. Honestly I never got it to the 2000 hand database. It was too time consuming for me. I believe most of their customers do the same thing. They buy the software out of their curiosity and throw it away after they use it for a while. We always want what we don't have.

Here is my suggestion: Don't break your bankroll to buy this because you think you will become a millionaire. Buy this software only if you have extra $500 that you don't know what to do or you might want to get together with could friends and share it together - It is possible to share database with each other; however, I'm not so sure about the technicality of it.

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