Shove City or Value Town?

Dudeskin8

EDNI7	Small blind		20.00	20.00	4740.00
weemallet	Big blind		40.00	60.00	5380.00
	Your hole cards	A Q
X	Call		40.00	100.00	5642.50
Magicalman	Fold
Dudeskin8	Raise		160.00	260.00	3952.50
EDNI7	Fold
weemallet	Fold
X	Call		120.00	380.00	5522.50
Flop
		A A 9
X	Check
Dudeskin8	Bet		120.00	500.00	3832.50
X	Call		120.00	620.00	5402.50
Turn
		Q
X	Check
Dudeskin8	Bet		360.00	980.00	3472.50
X	Call		360.00	1340.00	5042.50
River
		6
X	Check
Dudeskin8

Preflop just standard, flop bet could have been bigger I admit but just wanted to build the pot without scaring him away, turn I bet bigger percentage wise, both calls from X were insta-calls. Then a check on river, what's the best bet and should I have bet bigger earlier on ?

DOHHHHHHH

Half pot on the flop.......I don't mind the logic behind betting smaller than usual as there are no draws.

I like the turn size, maybe 400, but that's nit-picking, as he could have 9dxd -  pretty hard to put him on a hand here, must be 22-88, 9T, 89?

I wudnt shove, Id underbet the river, really is value town for me, maybe 500...? Doesn't look like he's got anything at all, bet small, hope he has 66 and doubles u up.

theneons

value town all the way - 1/2 pot would be the play i would make.

beaneh

snap shovel it in the middle.

pot it or all in both are fun

yb

Meh doesnt look like he has much.

I wouldnt bet more than 750.

beaneh

if he doesn't have much he cant be calling often, punish him when he does arrrrr eeeeeeeen

he might have ay ace!

YOUNG_GUN

600 value town hope he has ace and will re-raise, think could call with a queen here too although doesnt look like he has too much

DeucesLive

looks like a marginal holding to me, only way you're getting paid if it's cheap enough that he doesn't believe the ace- might get paid by a 9 or 10's/J's perhaps. Anything between 500-700 might get you a call because of what's in the middle, way too deep to shove IMO.

Although if you do and get accomodated, happy days.

yb

In Response to Re: Shove City or Value Town?:

if he doesn't have much he cant be calling often, punish him when he does arrrrr eeeeeeeen he might have ay ace!
Posted by beaneh

is %calling overbet x size of overbet />  %calling vbet x size of vbet though?

I just think he has a marginal here way too often to make shoving profitable, if he has an ace or better he might shove anyway!

LOL_RAISE

for simplicity sake we'll say we bet 1/3 our stack on river which i think is a pretty good vbet size anyway.


then he needs to call the vbet 3x for every once he calls the overbet. he limp calls pre which could be K9s-79s but w/o reads some of them are kinda loose tbh. pretty sure the standard sky players limp range is alot more Ax and all i know is they dont like to fold once they hit post flop.

as hes played so passively so far i dont think you can assume hes jamming Ax on river i think he just flat calls vast majority of the time. i quite like jamming tbh but it would be alot easier if you bet the two previous streets normal size

Dudeskin8

Well here's the river.

River
		6
X	Check
Dudeskin8	Bet		1005.00	2345.00	2467.50
X	Call		1005.00	3350.00	4037.50
Dudeskin8	Show	A Q
X	Muck	A 3
Dudeskin8	Win	Full House, Aces and Queens	3350.00		5817.50