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no idea.

edited October 2010 in The Poker Clinic
scotty77 Small blind  £0.25 £0.25 £109.72
GreedyGrah Big blind  £0.50 £0.75 £50.68
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
reg Raise  £2.00 £2.75 £98.28
freechips1 Raise  £6.50 £9.25 £67.55
scotty77 Fold     
GreedyGrah Call  £6.00 £15.25 £44.68
reg Call  £4.50 £19.75 £93.78
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 10
  • 5
     
GreedyGrah Check     
reg Check     
freechips1 Bet  £14.00 £33.75 £53.55
GreedyGrah All-in  £44.68 £78.43 £0.00
reg All-in  £93.78 £172.21 £0.00


reg is running like god and greedy is a stanard 50nl station.
do you fold here? or call hoping both players will be drawing?
what % would you say both will be on a draw? and how often will one of them have a set or top 2?

Comments

  • edited October 2010
    the reg only ever shows up with 7s8s here as a draw

        equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
    Hand 0:     12.280%      11.78%     00.50%              20316           864.00   { QhQs }
    Hand 1:     31.375%      30.87%     00.50%              53249           864.00   { TT-99, 55, AsKs, AsJs, As8s, KsJs, QJs, 8s7s, QJo }
    Hand 2:     56.345%      56.35%     00.00%              97180             0.00   { TT-99, 55, 8s7s }


    idk maybe stations range preflop is tighter/wider.
    can you fully discount KK/AA from reg also? maybe he can have AKss ?
  • edited October 2010
    reg will 4 bet pre with AA, KK, AK, QQ not sure what reg will do with JJ


    just had a look at HH and villan will call with ak but also will reraise with it, so its deffo in regs range.
  • edited October 2010

    reg shows sets a lot? reckon its a fold 3 way (and i'm a station)

  • edited October 2010
    that reg basically should only turn up with sets or 78ss here

    i did lol at this hand fwiw
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: no idea.:
    that reg basically should only turn up with sets or 78ss here i did lol at this hand fwiw
    Posted by scotty77
    thats what i thought, i was so shocked i timed out on all my tables with my gob wide open
  • edited October 2010
    don't like it much, but I think I'd have to fold there... and the good thing is, with 2 allins you'll have the information whether it was correct or not, instead of being 90% sure you're behind.

    I simply can't see how you're ever beating both of these players, the reg surely isn't putting his stack in there with anything less than a set or a really dominant overpair- aces or kings. He *might* have the AK flush draw, but you're still behind in that case, since he's got 15 outs to hit. You've invested 20, costing you a further 50ish to call... just too much, I'm pretty sure you have to hit running cards for a straight or a Q to win.

    Based on the action, I'd guess the first guy is drawing either to straight, flush or both- a suited ace is my guess, and the reg has 9's or 10's. I'm also going to guess that they actually showed hands far weaker than you'd put them on, which is why this is here.
  • edited October 2010
    have to fold here 3 way IMO but bet they both turn over ace10
  • edited October 2010
    freechips1 Fold     
    reg Unmatched bet  £49.10 £123.11 £49.10
    GreedyGrah Show
    • 3
    • A
       
    reg Show
    • J
    • Q
       
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
    River
       
    • J
         
    reg Win Pair of Jacks £121.31  £170.41
  • edited October 2010
    still in shock, hehe.
    the range of greedy i had sussed and i thought i had reg on a very narrow range and JQo was not part of that range.  Im now very confused about this move by reg, is it ultra spewy? i think it is, no reason why i dont have nut flush draw or a set here.
    deuceslive gets a gold star.
    can we ever put reg on JQo after a 3 bet pre?
  • edited October 2010
    rename reg 'fish'

    edit 'spewtard fish'
  • edited October 2010
    Crazy!!! But without seeing the result wud say ur fold was correct.
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