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Why cant i be profitable from online poker when i have proved i can make thousands playing live?
Yes... the obvious comes to mind that i should play more live but responsibilities rule.
I took two terrible beats tonight in a BH tournament after getting my money in with the best of it and just cant seam to crack the internet. I wouldnt say i am excellent at picking up tells or do anything special while playing in the local casinos but i just cant figure it out.
I know it is a pretty broad question but i have tried nearly every different form of the game (cash, S&G, BHs and MTTs) and also tried to vary play, style and tactics at different levels of money.
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Online you get people who have actually studied they game and have playing hundreds of thousands, even millions of hands.
Live you tend to get people who are gamblers who gave Poker a try while at a casino playing roulette, and they got hooked.
Of course you get good players live but not as many per table.
[X] Veiled attempt at bad beat story
I mean, did you win thousands plying live in cash, SNG's or one/two MTT results? If you've proven you can win thousands live by winning a big MTT and then bemoan your MTT luck online then obviously you're being a bit naive.
But let's assume you play the same format and have played a reasonable amount online and live and can justify a comparison in results. Are you comfortable online? are people bothering you? are you playing the same stakes? stuff like browsing the net, watching TV, making food etc can all affect your online play.
As for bad beat stories, they've been around since time (online poker) began and the sites arn't against you. If they are against you, then how come they are against everyone else too!?
With online play it's a bit easy to play too high stakes as it often doesn't seem real money and is easy to keep depositing so be realistic with your deposits and stakes and don't be afraid to just turn the f'n computer off if your playing badly.
GL.
You are playing at the wrong site if you wish to play proper poker.
Just look at the sit n go section.
All dyms, 'scary' games, turbos, high varience games that give muppets a far better hope over good players.
Mtts?
The standard on most sites is 1500 chips, 10 mins blinds ( or thereabouts ) and antes introduced at some point. You know, grown up poker.
Here?
Mega fast blind structures to give the muppets a chance and no antes.
Granted, you can still do well in spite of this, but the varience factor here is WAY higher than elsewhere.
Theres my 2p.
PS, this is not a post of mat1702, I am borrowing his account to post this.
I only play MTTs and S&Gs and this goes for live play as well, the stakes stay approx the same.
I have backed up my original statement by cashing in 3 of the last 4 live MTTs i have entered (all within the last 10 days) and i wouldnt say the players around me were any less than average, a lot of them far better and more experienced.
I didnt really want to tell another string of bad beat stories as it also bores me, but some recent events / hands have been absolutley astonishing.
I like the point about playing deep stack and playing Ivey but lets face it only one of them is going to happen.
TY
For what it's worth, I believe that the reason that online Poker is more difficult, and harder to fathom, is due to a mix of the following:
1. By playing online, and therefore anonymously, the aggression levels tend to increase slightly. In much the same way that some people may offer a more clipped response on a forum post (which they wouldn't dare do in a social gathering), they play 'with a bit more vim' when they know they won't suffer the same embarrassment of revealing a bad hand... that they would have, in a live tournament showdown.
2. There is a time limit online, which I think encourages more of an 'Oh, knickers, let's push' attitude when the timer starts to sound. In a live game, you get the luxury of going through all your best Hollywood faces for a good few minutes until someone finally calls the clock on you
3. Beer. There is much more beer involved in online play... Of that, I am utterly convinced. In a casino, the chap falling off his seat and dribbling onto his lapels is far easier to spot as an irrational player. Online, that same player might garner some respect as a ballsy, hyper-aggressive player (at least for a good ten minutes or so until I'm discov... sorry he is discovered).
4. Newer players that are interested in playing Poker, but are potentially intimidated by going into a casino and finding their way around, are much more confident in an online scenario, where the dealer button shifts for them and all the shuffling is done too. It follows that you will find more novice players, that might make dodgier raises with rag aces, etc., and will luck out more, simply by playing more hands. Sometimes, solid, mathematical, ABC, text-book Poker fails against luck – as we all know.
In summary, I much prefer live Poker, but online play gives me more regular fixes without the need of mucking about on trains all night.