Right to shove?

FlashFlush

stien	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£51.02
nervy	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£46.16
FlashFlush	Big blind		£0.50	£1.25	£49.50
	Your hole cards	9 9
simon710	Call		£0.50	£1.75	£39.90
FlashFlush	Raise		£1.50	£3.25	£48.00
bambury	Fold
stien	Fold
nervy	Call		£1.50	£4.75	£44.66
simon710	Call		£1.50	£6.25	£38.40
Flop
		3 8 4
nervy	Bet		£4.00	£10.25	£40.66
simon710	Call		£4.00	£14.25	£34.40
FlashFlush	All-in		£48.00	£62.25	£0.00
nervy	All-in		£40.66	£102.91	£0.00
simon710	Fold
FlashFlush	Unmatched bet		£3.34	£99.57	£3.34
nervy	Show	5 7
FlashFlush	Show	9 9
Turn
		3
River
		7
FlashFlush	Win	Two Pairs, 9s and 3s	£97.77		£101.11

FlashFlush

No reads because it was my very first hand at the table....

Didn't put any1 on an overpair because I raised pre and there was no 3bet, wanted to kill the chance of an overcard / another club coming down.

YOUNG_GUN

bit of a overbet, dont mind it as your outpricing the flush(i think). you have overpair. only way your behind is to set  which is possible but good play though imo flash

nh, although i would say by shoving your only going to get called by flush draw which will hit 1 in 3, or a set
i probably would have re-raised to £12 roughly then probably called a shove reason i would have re-raised rather then shoved is allow someone to bluff you of the hand. obviously if your called and well behind eg.set or overpair then would make a note

yb

I don't like it that much because you should only really get called if you're behind or flipping. Against nervy I'd probably raise to ~ £15 and shove blank turns.

Btw would you always raise the donk bet in this spot regardless of who the villain was?

DeucesLive

Well, my only concern with raising 15 is what do you do if you're reshoved on? The oppo may well still be sat on a big draw or have an overpair, and now it's you with the bigger decision.

Having said that, this is why I'm primarily a tournament player and struggle with cash. I'd be more than willing to bank my tournament in this spot, but I don't know how profitable that is in cash.

kirstii

I like the shove as it saves you having any more decisions in the hand and put the pressure on the villian to decide whether to chase or not. Bad call by him all the same.

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: Right to shove?:

I like the shove as it saves you having any more decisions in the hand and put the pressure on the villian to decide whether to chase or not. Bad call by him all the same.
Posted by kirstii

Agreed

yb

Meh the easiest decisions aren't always the best ones.

Deuces if I raised here (which I would do against this villain) I wouldn't be raise/folding but I still think we widen his getting it in range by letting him think he has fold equity to 3bet shove with draws/bluffs. Also by raising to £15 I think theres a much better chance of him continuing with worse pairs.

LOL_RAISE

i fail to see how its a bad call by villain? hes getting slightly over 1.5:1 so he needs 40% and im pretty sure hes going to be very close to that.


Board: 3c 8c 4d
Dead: 

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
Hand 0:     41.012%      41.01%     00.00%              20707             0.00   { 7c5c }
Hand 1:     58.988%      58.99%     00.00%              29783             0.00   { 88+, 44-33, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, KcQc, KcJc }

f varaince, i want my 1% edge