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Welcome to the luckbox

edited October 2010 in Area 51
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
foolhows Small blind  1000.00 1000.00 5400.00
SLICK422 Big blind  2000.00 3000.00 3200.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • J
     
POKEOFFU Fold     
amanda1983 All-in  12405.00 15405.00 0.00
xxx All-in  4200.00 19605.00 0.00
foolhows Fold     
SLICK422 Fold     
amanda1983 Unmatched bet  8205.00 11400.00 8205.00
amanda1983 Show
  • A
  • J
   
xxx Show
  • K
  • Q
   
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 2
  • A
     
Turn
   
  • J
     
River
   
  • 10
     
xxx Win Straight to the Ace 11400.00
Pretty sick after that flop!!

Comments

  • edited October 2010
    idiot
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    pokjo Small blind  50.00 50.00 5136.25
    Wacko90 Big blind  100.00 150.00 4992.50
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
         
    Pete852 Raise  300.00 450.00 4841.25
    SHY-BOY Fold     
    amanda1983 All-in  1965.00 2415.00 0.00
    WWFC1970 Fold     
    pokjo Fold     
    Wacko90 Fold     
    Pete852 Call  1665.00 4080.00 3176.25
    Pete852 Show
    • 10
    • A
       
    amanda1983 Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 9
    • 2
         
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    Pete852 Win Pair of 10s 4080.00
  • edited October 2010
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    HOVIS684 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.58
    speedy16 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.15
      Your hole cards
    • 6
    • 7
         
    Manictan Fold     
    greencards Fold     
    summoner Call  £0.04 £0.10 £13.56
    amanda1983 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £2.49
    HOVIS684 Raise  £0.08 £0.22 £2.50
    speedy16 Call  £0.06 £0.28 £1.09
    summoner Call  £0.06 £0.34 £13.50
    amanda1983 Call  £0.06 £0.40 £2.43
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 8
    • 5
         
    HOVIS684 Check     
    speedy16 Check     
    summoner Check     
    amanda1983 Bet  £0.52 £0.92 £1.91
    HOVIS684 Fold     
    speedy16 Call  £0.52 £1.44 £0.57
    summoner Fold     
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    speedy16 Bet  £0.04 £1.48 £0.53
    amanda1983 Raise  £1.56 £3.04 £0.35
    speedy16 All-in  £0.53 £3.57 £0.00
    amanda1983 Unmatched bet  £0.99 £2.58 £1.34
    speedy16 Show
    • 7
    • K
       
    amanda1983 Show
    • 6
    • 7
       
    River
       
    • 3
         
    speedy16 Win Flush to the King £2.39
  • edited October 2010
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    amanda1983 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £1.46
    HOVIS684 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.63
    Marcuuus Big blind  £0.04 £0.10 £1.56
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • 9
         
    Marcuuus Check     
    Manictan Fold     
    summoner Raise  £0.20 £0.30 £12.37
    amanda1983 Call  £0.18 £0.48 £1.28
    HOVIS684 Fold     
    Marcuuus Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • Q
    • 9
         
    amanda1983 Check     
    summoner Check     
    Turn
       
    • 7
         
    amanda1983 Bet  £0.36 £0.84 £0.92
    summoner Call  £0.36 £1.20 £12.01
    River
       
    • 6
         
    amanda1983 Check     
    summoner Bet  £0.64 £1.84 £11.37
    amanda1983 All-in  £0.92 £2.76 £0.00
    summoner Call  £0.28 £3.04 £11.09
    amanda1983 Show
    • J
    • 9
       
    summoner Show
    • A
    • J
       
    summoner Win Flush to the Ace £2.82
  • edited October 2010
    i feel your pain amanda take a look at the forum the past couple of weeks so many of us have been complaining about this, it cannot be us all running badly can it, sky have deleted 2 of my posts which suggest the sky RNG is rubbish so i cannot post the link for you to have a look at

    SKY YOU NEED TO TAKE NOTE OF HOW MANY PLAYERS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT STUPID OUTDRAWS NOW!
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    i feel your pain amanda take a look at the forum the past couple of weeks so many of us have been complaining about this, it cannot be us all running badly can it, sky have deleted 2 of my posts which suggest the sky RNG is rubbish so i cannot post the link for you to have a look at SKY YOU NEED TO TAKE NOTE OF HOW MANY PLAYERS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT STUPID OUTDRAWS NOW!
    Posted by KKarlos93
    pm me the link
  • edited October 2010
    All I can say to all the hands you posted are that this is standard. Nothing about them is a badbeat really. Some dodgy play in one or two for sure, but nothing strange about losing the hands posted here. Most of the hands are 60%-40% or 70-30  at best. So you are going to lose these hands, and you can't judge based on small sample sizes if things are right or wrong. Takes thousands of hands (50,000+) to account for expected variance. Remember poker may have a good part of skill involved, but it still has an element of luck as well.

    Long as you keep putting it while ahead you should be fine in the long run, and don't focus on every hand that goes against you, as they will happen, sometimes in long streaks even. I've taken 10+ buyin drops when I've got my money in while well ahead and thats here, and at other sites. Poker if you are playing for profit is a game you play over the long stretch, not a short sprint.:)
  • edited October 2010
    Hand 1- caller had two big blinds and KQ suited is a perfectly reasonable hand to call with in that scenario
    Hand 2- just unlucky.
    Hand 3- you've just called on the button in an unopened pot, getting raising. As played, you've bet well and made him pay for his draw.(should've check raised all in imo).Unfortunately for you, he's put half his stack in so is pot committed and is calling any bet on the turn. Your initial mistake of flatting on the button has got this guy chasing his flush and he hits it, but you got him to call off his stack without the odds to call.Keep doing that(making them pay for their draws) and you'll turn a healthy profit in the long run
    Hand 4- you called a raise oop with J9 off.Just throw it away. Nice bet on the turn to find out where you are. Once called and the 3rd heart comes you check he bets,now is when you fold.As it is,you have no fold equity when shoving, so you need the best hand to win and a rivered two pair doesn't figure to be ahead with an obvious flush out there.
    Just my thoughts. Hope this helps. If you get more hands like this,post them in the poker clinic thread and ask for peoples thoughts on how you played.
    Has helped me a lot when other people critique your play.
  • ybyb
    edited October 2010
    First 2 hands are standard for donkaments.
    Fold pre in hand 3
    Hand 4 is terrible. Dont call 5x raises oop with j9o. And why on earth did you c/shove the river?

    Also you should buy in full in cash games. Rather than moaning about your luck and berating other players maybe you should work on improving your game instead?
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    First 2 hands are standard for donkaments. Fold pre in hand 3 Hand 4 is terrible. Dont call 5x raises oop with j9o. And why on earth did you c/shove the river? Also you should buy in full in cash games. Rather than moaning about your luck and berating other players maybe you should work on improving your game instead?
    Posted by yb
    +1
  • edited October 2010
    Ini  Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    First 2 hands are standard for donkaments. Fold pre in hand 3 Hand 4 is terrible. Dont call 5x raises oop with j9o. And why on earth did you c/shove the river? Also you should buy in full in cash games. Rather than moaning about your luck and berating other players maybe you should work on improving your game instead?
    Posted by yb
    at which point did i moan about luck??? berating others????? maybe you should read it again! also this is area 51, il write and post what i want to. did i ask for advise on the hands?? NO, this is not the poker clinic. this is my thread for the things i want to post. maybe instead of giving advise to people who dont ask for it, you should turn around and crawl back up to the poker clinic and be of help to somone who wants it!
    cya
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox : +1
    Posted by Kiwini4u
    +1 BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA whats this?? yb flock???.
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox : +1 BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA whats this?? yb flock???.
    Posted by amanda1983
    Haha nice 1 babes,and i sooooooooo luved your reply to yb,total girl power imo
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox : Haha nice 1 babes,and i sooooooooo luved your reply to yb,total girl power imo
    Posted by debdobs_67
    thanks hun xx. i just think that some of these goody 2 shoes dont relise what AREA 51 is for.
  • edited October 2010
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    boycs365 Small blind  15.00 15.00 1760.00
    zimboy87 Big blind  30.00 45.00 1915.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    amanda1983 Raise  150.00 195.00 2215.00
    ashboy Fold     
    Dochyboy61 Call  150.00 345.00 3842.50
    buey Fold     
    boycs365 Call  135.00 480.00 1625.00
    zimboy87 Fold     
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 5
    • Q
         
    boycs365 Bet  360.00 840.00 1265.00
    amanda1983 All-in  2215.00 3055.00 0.00
    Dochyboy61 Fold     
    boycs365 All-in  1265.00 4320.00 0.00
    amanda1983 Unmatched bet  590.00 3730.00 590.00
    boycs365 Show
    • J
    • 10
       
    amanda1983 Show
    • K
    • A
       
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    River
       
    • 6
         
    boycs365 Win Flush to the Ace 3730.00
  • edited October 2010
    hand above made me short stack, thought it mite work both ways
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    raydarr Small blind 50.00 50.00 3691.25
    amanda1983 Big blind  100.00 150.00 905.00
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 9
         
    ashboy Raise  300.00 450.00 2730.00
    Dochyboy61 Fold     
    buey Fold     
    raydarr Fold     
    amanda1983 All-in  905.00 1355.00 0.00
    ashboy Call  705.00 2060.00 2025.00
    amanda1983 Show
    • 8
    • 9
       
    ashboy Show
    • A
    • 9
       
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 7
    • 8
         
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • 4
         
    ashboy Win Flush to the Ace 2060.00
    obviously not.
  • edited October 2010
    layerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    amanda1983 Small blind  100.00 100.00 3656.25
    gc540 Big blind  200.00 300.00 2755.00
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
         
    emerate Raise  400.00 700.00 955.00
    DS_Toys Fold     
    amanda1983 All-in  3656.25 4356.25 0.00
    gc540 Fold     
    emerate All-in  955.00 5311.25 0.00
    amanda1983 Unmatched bet  2401.25 2910.00 2401.25
    amanda1983 Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    emerate Show
    • K
    • Q
       
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 8
    • 5
         
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    River
       
    • Q
         
    emerate Win Pair of Queens 2910.00
  • edited October 2010
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    gc540 Small blind  100.00 100.00 2655.00
    emerate Big blind  200.00 300.00 3210.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • J
         
    DS_Toys Fold     
    amanda1983 Call  200.00 500.00 2101.25
    gc540 Fold     
    emerate Check     
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 7
    • A
         
    emerate Check     
    amanda1983 Bet  500.00 1000.00 1601.25
    emerate Call  500.00 1500.00 2710.00
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    emerate Check     
    amanda1983 All-in  1601.25 3101.25 0.00
    emerate Call  1601.25 4702.50 1108.75
    emerate Show
    • 4
    • 5
       
    amanda1983 Show
    • A
    • J
       
    River
       
    • 3
         
    emerate Win Straight to the 7 4702.50
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox : thanks hun xx. i just think that some of these goody 2 shoes dont relise what AREA 51 is for.
    Posted by amanda1983
    Or maybe they do, but feel they'd like to help you out anyway rather than have you believe its all bad luck that causes your losses. And after all its a forum and they can answer your posts if they want to express an opinion on what you have posted. YOu might not like what they say, and they might not like what you say, but thats what a forum is all about. lol

    I mean those hands yhou just posted, you got a hand you are a coind flip in with 1010 vs KQ against a short stack that is going to shove that hand any day of the week. A hand you are SECOND favourite to win when the money goes in, and a hand you decided to limp in on the button and got beat by a bad call and a river suck out that happens. Not going to mention the all in shove with 89os to an UTG raise overly, but why?  So standard, I'm not sure of the point of posting them, what is it? Are you going to post all the hands you win with to balance it out?

    Just out of interest if all you guys think its all luck based, or its rigged, or the RNG isn't random etc, why do you still keep playing?? Are you expecting something from the posts other than support from a few other players? Just curious as see these type of posts on every poker site forum, even though on the same sites plenty of players are winning fine. How do yhou reason that? Are they just more lucky forever?
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox : Or maybe they do, but feel they'd like to help you out anyway rather than have you believe its all bad luck that causes your losses. And after all its a forum and they can answer your posts if they want to express an opinion on what you have posted. YOu might not like what they say, and they might not like what you say, but thats what a forum is all about. lol Just out of interest if all you guys think its all luck based, or its rigged, or the RNG isn't random etc, why do you still keep playing?? Are you expecting something from the posts other than support from a few other players? Just curious as see these type of posts on every poker site forum, even though on the same sites plenty of players are winning fine. How do yhou reason that? Are they just more lucky forever?
    Posted by KAM99
    hi KAM, i dont think poker is rigged nor  do i have a problem with the rng and i know its not all luck. if i didnt like people having an opinion on my thread i wouldnt post it. i didnt remark on your post did i??  this is just a thread for me to post my hands, probaly some winning ones when/if i do.
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox : hi KAM, i dont think poker is rigged nor  do i have a problem with the rng and i know its not all luck. if i didnt like people having an opinion on my thread i wouldnt post it. i didnt remark on your post did i??  this is just a thread for me to post my hands, probaly some winning ones when/if i do.
    Posted by amanda1983
    Then forgive my assumption. I just thought as it was in Area 51 and was titled "Welcome to the luckbox" and all the hands were ones you lost, I was under the impression you thought that was the case. Hope you get some good luck in the future then. :)
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox : Then forgive my assumption. I just thought as it was in Area 51 and was titled "Welcome to the luckbox" and all the hands were ones you lost, I was under the impression you thought that was the case. Hope you get some good luck in the future then. :)
    Posted by KAM99
    i read your 1st post and took it all in, and the guy below you. the title just popped in my head.
    thanks hun xx
  • ybyb
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    Ini  Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox : at which point did i moan about luck??? berating others????? maybe you should read it again! also this is area 51, il write and post what i want to. did i ask for advise on the hands?? NO, this is not the poker clinic. this is my thread for the things i want to post. maybe instead of giving advise to people who dont ask for it, you should turn around and crawl back up to the poker clinic and be of help to somone who wants it! cya
    Posted by amanda1983
     
    Erm you called your opponent an idiot so that would count as berating someone in most people's eyes. And yeah I know what area 51 is for, just for people to moan about how bad they run. I just thought I'd point out that in the cash hands the reason you lost money was your bad play, not bad luck. :)
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox:
    In Response to Re: Welcome to the luckbox :   Erm you called your opponent an idiot so that would count as berating someone in most people's eyes. And yeah I know what area 51 is for, just for people to moan about how bad they run. I just thought I'd point out that in the cash hands the reason you lost money was your bad play, not bad luck. :)
    Posted by yb
    my bad yb, didnt relise making a player put all is money in with K high vs str was bad play. area 51 is not just for that, its for anything which is not covered by the other forum topics.
  • edited October 2010
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    amanda1983 Small blind  200.00 200.00 2645.00
    bugsytwo Big blind  400.00 600.00 3990.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    kz24 Call  400.00 1000.00 6230.00
    baracouda Fold     
    hadfield09 Call  400.00 1400.00 18440.00
    amanda1983 All-in  2645.00 4045.00 0.00
    bugsytwo Fold     
    kz24 Call  2445.00 6490.00 3785.00
    hadfield09 Fold     
    amanda1983 Show
    • K
    • A
       
    kz24 Show
    • K
    • 10
       
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 10
    • 8
         
    Turn
       
    • 5
         
    River
       
    • 7
         
    kz24 Win Two Pairs, 10s and 5s 6490.00
  • edited October 2010
    ActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Marty642 Small blind  20.00 20.00 14580.00
    SNEAKYTOMO Big blind  40.00 60.00 2840.00
      Your hole cards
    • 5
    • A
         
    sbanker Call  40.00 100.00 4490.00
    sheila Fold     
    amanda1983 All-in  755.00 855.00 0.00
    Msflicky Fold     
    Marty642 Call  735.00 1590.00 13845.00
    SNEAKYTOMO Fold     
    sbanker Fold     
    Marty642 Show
    • 10
    • Q
       
    amanda1983 Show
    • 5
    • A
       
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • J
    • K
         
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    River
       
    • 2
         
    Marty642 Win Straight to the Ace 1590.00  15435.00
  • edited October 2010
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Patsy1975 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.15
    dancedee Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.50
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • 9
         
    A881E Call  £0.04 £0.10 £0.36
    PALACEFAN Fold     
    amanda1983 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £1.24
    tag188 Fold     
    Patsy1975 Call  £0.02 £0.16 £2.13
    dancedee Check     
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • J
    • 7
         
    Patsy1975 Check     
    dancedee Check     
    A881E Bet  £0.04 £0.20 £0.32
    amanda1983 Raise  £0.16 £0.36 £1.08
    Patsy1975 Fold     
    dancedee Fold     
    A881E All-in  £0.32 £0.68 £0.00
    amanda1983 Call  £0.20 £0.88 £0.88
    A881E Show
    • K
    • K
       
    amanda1983 Show
    • J
    • 9
       
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • A
         
    amanda1983 Win Three Jacks £0.82
  • edited October 2010
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Patsy1975 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.05
    dancedee Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.45
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • Q
         
    Jimmalaar Call  £0.04 £0.10 £4.16
    PALACEFAN Raise  £0.08 £0.18 £15.89
    amanda1983 Raise  £0.20 £0.38 £1.10
    tag188 Fold     
    Patsy1975 Fold     
    dancedee Fold     
    Jimmalaar Call  £0.16 £0.54 £4.00
    PALACEFAN Raise  £0.24 £0.78 £15.65
    amanda1983 Call  £0.12 £0.90 £0.98
    Jimmalaar Call  £0.12 £1.02 £3.88
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • A
    • 7
         
    Jimmalaar Check     
    PALACEFAN Bet  £1.02 £2.04 £14.63
    amanda1983 All-in  £0.98 £3.02 £0.00
    Jimmalaar Call  £1.02 £4.04 £2.86
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    Jimmalaar Check     
    PALACEFAN Bet  £1.00 £5.04 £13.63
    Jimmalaar Call  £1.00 £6.04 £1.86
    River
       
    • 5
         
    Jimmalaar Check     
    PALACEFAN Bet  £1.28 £7.32 £12.35
    Jimmalaar Fold     
    PALACEFAN Unmatched bet  £1.28 £6.04 £13.63
    PALACEFAN Show
    • A
    • A
       
    amanda1983 Show
    • J
    • Q
       
    PALACEFAN Win Three Aces £5.59
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