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Interesting Article and Research I done into Online Poker and Players Comments and A Deffinative Ans

edited October 2010 in Area 51
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I am sorry, but you will have to remove the links in this post as they break the house rules, if you are unsure the rules can be found
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  • edited October 2010
    First Article Firstly I will clarify what most people mean when they say that online poker is rigged or fixed. This idea is suggested because a lot of people believe that the cards are dealt in set patterns so that certain hands will be specifically chosen by the site, resulting in numerous bad beats for players.Therefore due to this frequency of bad beats, a player may claim that the site is rigged and that no hands and cards are dealt out at random.So anyway, is online poker is rigged?No.Every site uses a RNG (Random Number Generator) to randomly choose cards from a 52 card deck on every singly hand. Rigged online poker is just another one of the many online poker myths.Almost every winning online poker player uses tracking software like Holdem Manager. Check it out.Theories for online poker being rigged.I could end the article at that, but now you will be asking the question of why I am so sure that it isn’t rigged, so I will continue and hopefully explain why it is not rigged and dispel some common rumors about Internet poker at the same time.Many people have different suggestions as to why Internet poker is rigged, so I will address the most popular theories in the next few paragraphs and give the reasoning to why they are incorrect.There are too many bad beats.Cards are fixed to keep people playing.Cards are fixed to build bigger pots.1) Too many bad beats.
    Theory: The number of bad beats online is substantially greater when compared to the number of bad beats in live play. Therefore, if online poker isn’t rigged, then why are there so many bad beats?Explanation: I will admit that it is true that you will see far more bad beats online than you will during live play, but this is not because it is rigged. There are two reasons why you see such a high frequency of beats online:The action at an online poker table runs much faster than the action at a live table. More hands = more beats.You are not sitting face to face with any of your opponents whilst playing online.To elaborate on point #2, players are happier to call down large bets and raises on unlikely draws, as they do not have to worry about being berated by other players at the table (except for a few words in a chat box). If a player is playing at a live table, they are more likely to avoid calling with terrible odds for a draw because they would not like to be criticized because of their bad play.Because online players are calling with worse hands and worse odds, you are likely to suffer more bad beats.Top 3 safest online poker rooms.In all fairness, if any of the rooms on this site were rigged or unsafe I would not link to them. Nonetheless, I would say the following rooms are the safest of an already incredibly safe bunch.1) PokerStars - This is the biggest online poker room by quite some margin. I'll eat my hat if this poker room ever goes south. Amazing support at hand to answers questions too.2) Full Tilt- Sure, bad beats happen, but that's because of the fishy players making bad calls. Full Tilt is huge, so don't mistake easy money as rigged cards. Be thankful for poor play.3) Bet365 - An exceptionally reputable company in the UK and Europe all over. They have been a superb sportsbook over the years and their poker room is equally as reliable.2) Cards are fixed to keep people playing.Theory: The online rooms fix the cards so that the bad players will get luckier to stop them from losing too much money and leaving the room. The rooms want to keep as many players as possible so that they generate more rake, so by fixing the cards to make it ‘fairer’ for the bad players, they will able to make more money for themselves.Explanation: The chances of a room fixing cards to help the bad players save money are almost non-existent. Only when you start to think about the side effects of such a system can you appreciate the absurdity of such a theory.If a room is helping a bad player from losing money, at the same time the room will be taking this money from the good players to compensate. Therefore there would be no such thing as the online pros that make a living from playing online poker, because they will find it too difficult to win money due to a ‘fair’ system.In addition, the site would have to scrap the use of its RNG and design a system that is able to detect a losing player and be able to deliver ‘good hands’ to those players. Not only would this be incredibly difficult for the sites to create, but it would also be illegal. If a site were found to be utilizing such a system to help make them more money, they would incur a staggering amount of fines and be heavily prosecuted. The poker rooms know this and so it would be dangerously unwise for them to even consider using such a system.3) Cards are fixed to build bigger pots.Theory: Poker rooms have pre-set ‘action hands’ that give two or more players very strong hands. This helps to create larger pots, which in turn generates more rake for the room.Explanation: As already mentioned above, the poker rooms would have to knowingly break the law to achieve this system. With so many people involved working with the rooms, there is a high chance that information of such a system would slip out into the public eye and scar the integrity of the room.Furthermore, the room would be forced to close and they would face large fines and legal action due to their exploits. If a room were using a system like that, you would know about it by now. As far as the poker rooms are concerned the juice just wouldn’t be worth the squeeze, and they would rather invest their time in making the room more attractive to new and old players.Strategy articles will take you so far, but training sites will take you further.Is online poker rigged overview.These are the most popular arguments for why online poker may be rigged. As you can see the explanations make it incredibly unlikely that the poker rooms will ever rig poker for the online player. If you browse through a poker room’s homepage you should be able to find information on how each hand is randomly generated. If this is not available on the website then you should be able to request information about it by emailing the poker room.If you really wish, you can test the RNG of the rooms by tracking the results of your play using tracking software and comparing the statistics you obtain against the mathematical likelihood of each situation over a large number of hands. However, you must obtain a large amount of data if you intend on doing this to make sure the results are fair and accurate. If you are still unsure about the room you are playing at, simply move onto a different room.Second Article The question, 'is online poker rigged?' all too often crops up on poker forums, blogs and discussions, especially when so many people experience almost unbelievable bad beats and suck outs. Obviously, there has to be an explanation to the record number of bad beats one will witness in online poker.There certainly is an explanation for it, although some may say well, that's poker, or there are too many donkeys or they played bad, the truth of the matter is that it has nothing to do with the other players! The real secret behind the large number of bad beats and suck outs in online poker lies within the online poker software used to generate the cards.In reality, the answer to 'is online poker rigged' is without a doubt, YES! However, it is not rigged in the manner you may think. It is rigged in the sense that fair play, statistical odds, and a true-to-life outcome is realistically stripped away from the program due to the algorithms used by the poker sites.These algorithms will determine the outcome of winning hands and force certain players to win while other players lose even though they had the best hand preflop or on the turn. The algorithms and subroutines used by all major poker sites create the problems of overwhelming bad beats and suckouts in an attempt to make the game appear realistic, to induce action, and to give the impression the game is fair to all.Of course, this may all sound confusing, however, it is the way the poker sites are rigged to produce winning hands and it is an indisputable fact. The secret to winning at an online poker site is knowing the algorithm and then using that to your advantage to give yourself an edge in the game.The bottom line is simply that internet poker sites are a computer generated program. Moreover, that program can be manipulated by anyone who knows the code of the subroutines and algorithms. There is no live interaction in the shuffle, deal, or outcome of the cards, and therefore the question is online poker rigged, invariably has to be answered YES! So, what can one do about the bad beats and suckouts in online poker? Learn the code! Paul Westin reveals the algorithmic code used by all major poker sites online and shows how it can be used to your advantage. Read more at The Online Poker Code.Paul Westin is a professional poker player on several online poker sites and a former software engineer for a gaming company. His latest research reveals the inner workings of the online poker sites and how the software programs used on the poker sites affect the outcomes of your play. Article Source: 

     

  • edited October 2010

    bullet points ftw
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Interesting Article and Research I done into Online Poker and Players Comments and A Deffinative Answer by a Well Established Magazine Everyone Should Read the Last Part of This:
    Hey I am sorry, but you will have to remove the links in this post as they break the house rules, if you are unsure the rules can be found here . Thanks for your understanding Sky Mod
    Posted by Sky_Mod4
    I have edited accordingly so it can be transferred back to the Poker Clinic
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Interesting Article and Research I done into Online Poker and Players Comments and A Deffinative Answer by a Well Established Magazine Everyone Should Read the Last Part of This:
    In Response to Re: Interesting Article and Research I done into Online Poker and Players Comments and A Deffinative Answer by a Well Established Magazine Everyone Should Read the Last Part of This : I have edited accordingly so it can be transferred back to the Poker Clinic
    Posted by OCTUPUS
    once in area 51, you aint gettin out..
  • edited October 2010
    The second article looks like a typical scam to me.

    Octopus, are you anything to do with Paul Westin? Are you posting here to try and sell a few ebooks for $29.95?
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