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Call or fold???

edited October 2010 in The Poker Clinic
harding10 Small blind  200.00 200.00 10185.00
newman07 Big blind  400.00 600.00 19489.40
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
MRDICKIE Fold     
Doh Fold     
xxxx Call  400.00 1000.00 10270.00
tempusfuge Fold     
harding10 Raise  1400.00 2400.00 8785.00
newman07 Fold     
xxxx Call  1200.00 3600.00 9070.00
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 2
  • Q
     
harding10 Bet  2700.00 6300.00 6085.00
xxxx All-in  9070.00 15370.00 0.00
Comments please. Should I have c bet oop on this hand, and what to do when he shoves.

Comments

  • edited October 2010
    More details please, really hard to say with just that info.how had he been playing? Was he loose or tight? How was your image?
  • edited October 2010

    I hadn't been on that table very long, but the villain wasn't playing loose in that time. One player certainly was playing loose but wasn't involved in the hand
     
    My image is probably on the nitty side of tight.

  • edited October 2010
    I'd fold, you have cbet they have answered you. also you not they wasnt loosey goosey, possible they have bare queen most the time here if they have done with worse then ill be very suprised

    fold you have enough to still build a stack wont be out of it
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Call or fold???:
    Should I have c bet oop on this hand, and what to do when he shoves.
    Posted by harding10
    I think a call, call then shove suggests a fairly decent hand unless they just can't let go of a pretty looking hand.

    Chances are decent that unless they have air they have a chance at a flush draw or a Queen or even a pair of Q's, K's or A's. Jacks are always a danger hand so I think I would fold there otherwise you are taking a bit of a gamble unless you know his style of play. Plenty of other opportunities to make a move later on unless you are one of those players who likes to get ahead fairly early in a tournament.
  • edited October 2010
    you can c bet less than that and save yourself some chips
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Call or fold???:
    Definitely call here. If you are behind there are still 2 jacks to come plus running cards could make you a straight.
    This is where it's +ev as you could then taunt your opponent in the chatbox.
    Often i find suckout taunting to be far more rewarding than the pot itself !
  • edited October 2010
    lol to shelski!!!
    I would c bet alot less 2000 at most and then if he goes oer the top i would put him on the spade draw so would prob call here
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Call or fold???:
    lol to shelski!!! I would c bet alot less 2000 at most and then if he goes oer the top i would put him on the spade draw so would prob call here
    Posted by Batkin88
    so the size of the cbet is irrelevent then lol
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Call or fold???:
    In Response to Re: Call or fold??? : so the size of the cbet is irrelevent then lol
    Posted by Eagle26
    Obviously it's to induce the shove from the definite spade draw.

    Which turns out to be TP :)
  • edited October 2010
    ah em what if he calls????
    Then u can put that beautiful lady in his range and re evaluate the turn.
    Would he shove with a queen???? Mybe Ace Queen but u can myt be able to disect that info from past hands.

    lol to u 2 thinking theres onnly 2 cards in a deck
  • edited October 2010
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    R u two a couple it all seems rather intimate
  • edited October 2010
    i wouldnt cbet if i was going to fold to his shove
  • edited October 2010
    harding10 Small blind  200.00 200.00 10185.00
    newman07 Big blind  400.00 600.00 19489.40
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
         
    MRDICKIE Fold     
    Doh Fold     
    Scapman Call  400.00 1000.00 10270.00
    tempusfuge Fold     
    harding10 Raise  1400.00 2400.00 8785.00
    newman07 Fold     
    Scapman Call  1200.00 3600.00 9070.00
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 2
    • Q
         
    harding10 Bet  2700.00 6300.00 6085.00
    Scapman All-in  9070.00 15370.00 0.00
    harding10 All-in  6085.00 21455.00 0.00
    Scapman Unmatched bet  285.00 21170.00 285.00
    harding10 Show
    • J
    • J
       
    Scapman Show
    • J
    • K
       
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    River
       
    • 10
         
    Scapman Win Straight to the King 21170.00  21455.00
    Shelski for the win, although he was only half right. Runner runner for 2 straights lol
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Call or fold???:
    I'd fold, you have cbet they have answered you. also you not they wasnt loosey goosey, possible they have bare queen most the time here if they have done with worse then ill be very suprised fold you have enough to still build a stack wont be out of it
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Right decision would have been fold.

    Probably tilted at the moment. I've been getting the idea everyone's bluffing me over the last few of days, so I'm taking the weekend off before paranoia sends me to area 51.

     
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