Whats the right play here?

tapeworm

Villan has just sat down, but I have notes saying tight passive. Didnt mean to limp pre on the button, was not paying attention - so we are where we are.

What is the right play after the shove, and what do you put him on?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
xbootneck2	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.80
ashers	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.59
Villan	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£3.96
	Your hole cards	8 6
eddie2	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£6.89
Villan	Check
tapeworm	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£4.99
xbootneck2	Call		£0.02	£0.20	£1.78
ashers	Check
Flop
		K 10 9
xbootneck2	Check
ashers	Bet		£0.04	£0.24	£2.55
eddie2	Fold
Villan	Call		£0.04	£0.28	£3.92
tapeworm	Raise		£0.28	£0.56	£4.71
xbootneck2	Fold
ashers	Fold
Villan	Call		£0.24	£0.80	£3.68
Turn
		Q
Villan	All-in		£3.68	£4.48	£0.00
tapeworm	??

KAM99

Well the usual rule is "Never go bust in an unraised pot", but taking the stakes into account I'm likely making the call in this spot. He could easy be drawing to a heart in his hand and trying to shove you off, or any random pair/2 pair combo or at best the straight. So many hands he could have, and a made better flush is the least likely of them, so think in this spot I'm calling all day, and just reloading if its one of those days when he does have a made better flush.

yb

fist pump call

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: Whats the right play here?:

Well the usual rule is "Never go bust in an unraised pot", but taking the stakes into account I'm likely making the call in this spot. He could easy be drawing to a heart in his hand and trying to shove you off, or any random pair/2 pair combo or at best the straight. So many hands he could have, and a made better flush is the least likely of them, so think in this spot I'm calling all day, and just reloading if its one of those days when he does have a made better flush.
Posted by KAM99

There isn't a rule saying "Never bust someone in an unraised pot"

KAM99

In Response to Re: Whats the right play here?:

In Response to Re: Whats the right play here? : There isn't a rule saying "Never bust someone in an unraised pot"
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Ok, not a rule, but its a saying in poker. Don't know who first used it, but its not one I made up myself. And I don't always agree with it either. IT's mainly a saying for not being silly with say TP/WK against heavy action. Hence why I said didn't apply in this spot for me.

EDIT: Thiink it wass Doyle Brunson that coined the phrase first, but not 100% sure.

ACESOVER8s

In Response to Re: Whats the right play here?:

In Response to Re: Whats the right play here? : Ok, not a rule, but its a saying in poker. Don't know who first used it, but its not one I made up myself. And I don't always agree with it either. IT's mainly a saying for not being silly with say TP/WK against heavy action. Hence why I said didn't apply in this spot for me. EDIT: Thiink it wass Doyle Brunson that coined the phrase first, but not 100% sure.
Posted by KAM99

Well your right, there is a saying that goes "Never go bust in an unraised pot" Dohhh reversed it on you though

There is no saying Never bust someone else in an unraised pot lol

LOL_RAISE

i dont mind limping behind preflop on the button especially when we are unliekly to get squeezed, and if we do get raied unlikely to get many folds.

obv snap call

tapeworm

Ok so general consensus is that you call all day long. Good.

I had him down as having the Jack, which he did - of hearts no less. all good in the end. Have no idea why he limped pre though.

xbootneck2	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.80
ashers	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.59
Villan	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£3.96
	Your hole cards	8 6
eddie2	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£6.89
Villan	Check
tapeworm	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£4.99
xbootneck2	Call		£0.02	£0.20	£1.78
ashers	Check
Flop
		K 10 9
xbootneck2	Check
ashers	Bet		£0.04	£0.24	£2.55
eddie2	Fold
Villan	Call		£0.04	£0.28	£3.92
tapeworm	Raise		£0.28	£0.56	£4.71
xbootneck2	Fold
ashers	Fold
Villan	Call		£0.24	£0.80	£3.68
Turn
		Q
Villan	All-in		£3.68	£4.48	£0.00
tapeworm	Call		£3.68	£8.16	£1.03
Villan	Show	J A
tapeworm	Show	8 6
River
		4
tapeworm	Win	Flush to the King	£7.55