How was my play (Omaha)?

Tooned

I won the pot, but I was just considering my play in this hand.
304207647

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Hand History #304207647 (00:58 03/11/2010)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DREAMHUNTE	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£27.30
Ghoti	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£99.00
	Your hole cards	9 5 J K
Tooned	Raise		£2.00	£3.50	£114.43
goodylad21	Raise		£7.50	£11.00	£113.69
DREAMHUNTE	Fold
Ghoti	Call		£6.50	£17.50	£92.50
Tooned	Call		£5.50	£23.00	£108.93
Flop
		J 10 6
Ghoti	Check
Tooned	Check
goodylad21	Bet		£17.25	£40.25	£96.44
Ghoti	Call		£17.25	£57.50	£75.25
Tooned	Call		£17.25	£74.75	£91.68
Turn
		5
Ghoti	Check
Tooned	Bet		£28.00	£102.75	£63.68
goodylad21	Call		£28.00	£130.75	£68.44
Ghoti	Call		£28.00	£158.75	£47.25
River
		3
Ghoti	Check
Tooned	Check
goodylad21	All-in		£68.44	£227.19	£0.00
Ghoti	Fold
Tooned	All-in		£63.68	£290.87	£0.00
goodylad21	Unmatched bet		£4.76	£286.11	£4.76
Tooned	Show	9 5 J K
goodylad21	Show	9 J Q Q
Tooned	Win	Two Pairs, Jacks and 5s	£285.21

LOL_RAISE

i dont play much omaha but preflop we have a marginal hand only 1 flush draw is actually any good and still then its marginal, so we want as much FE as possible preflop, POT it instead of minraising.

i think flop might actually be a fold
i wouldnt bet the turn myself i would be trying to get to showdown

river call seems ok since he flats the turn so most likely has some kind of a draw and only 47xx got there.

but meh im omahahaahahah fish

YOUNG_GUN

any reads on opponent who has re-raised pre? Also why the min bet?

Welcome to the clinic mate, hopefully talon sees this

goodylad21

Scrub me name out you plonker

Don't want everybody laughing at how bad I suck at omaha !!

FWIW i think you made two very loose calls

YOUNG_GUN

loose call and loose re-raise pre goody ) be interested to know table dynamics as neither should have played as it is imo but i understand sometimes if its a gamblers table or something

Tooned

In Response to Re: How was my play (Omaha)?:

loose call and loose re-raise pre goody ) be interested to know table dynamics as neither should have played as it is imo but i understand sometimes if its a gamblers table or something
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

Well it was a VERY loose table to be honest. He was raising pot preflop pretty much every hand.

Talon

  Ok i will go through this hand as i see it but with the reservation that i have very little history to go on so i will only base my opinion on the board and hole cards.

  Preflop: You have 2 realistic nut drawing hands KJ and J9 which makes this a weak preflop holding.The fold pre is fine with this hand or even a limp. But if you are going to be aggressive preflop then raise the maximum not a pointless min raise which will just build the pot up and not remove any hands from the pot. You do not want to be playing a bad hand multiway in a big pot.When the 3-bet comes in you should be insta folding there because you have a weak holding which is unlikely to hit big.

  Flop: You have top pair and a bad flush draw which on such a draw heavy board is basically nothing. Sets and 2 pairs on the flop are standard in omaha and you must consider that you are behind at this point especially as over pairs are well within the 3-betting range. For me this is an insta fold again because there is not a realistic card that could come in to ensure that you have the best hand.

  Turn: your hand has improved but you are still a mile behind most holdings hereand not too far in front of anyone just on a draw. Unless you can say for absolute certain that you are just up against an overpair you are not in a good position at all.For me this is check fold or check call a weak bet.

 River : your hand is a weak 2 pair on a board where the best hand is only realistically 2 pair or a set.The straight draw being unlikely to have hit anyone. So i can understand why you would call there with some showdown value albeit quite weak.


  Overall i think you overplayed a really weak hand when you only got a piece of the board. Yes you won this time but if you play hands like that you will be lucky to win 1 in 10 pots. If you are on a loose table where someone is raising continually the best move is to tighten up and only play hands with 3+ nut drawing hands in them and only continue down the streets when you hit the board big or pick up a monster draw.

  Sorry if this sounds overly critical but without the full history and ranges of opponents in the pot i can only comment from the angle of your cards. With reads i could change my opinions but have none to go on in this situation. Good luck at the tables and keep playing the 4 card game.

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: How was my play (Omaha)?:

Scrub me name out you plonker Don't want everybody laughing at how bad I suck at omaha !! FWIW i think you made two very loose calls
Posted by goodylad21

luv ya goody ;o)

Batkin88

really badly played IMO and actually well played by goodylad just found a station.

Fold pre if not raise

Fold flop

Fold turn

Maybe call river but should never get there

How can u not put him on a set or 2 pair himself from flop (J 10)
Nice pot to win but so lucky would seriously recommend going through talon thread on omaha cz u will lose loads playing like this