Why you can not win at low stakes...

demondave

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
djrelapse	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£13.89
demondave	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£4.58
	Your hole cards	A A
flick0121	Fold
langhorn08	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£4.04
TheRat1	Fold
djrelapse	Call		£0.25	£0.70	£13.64
demondave	Raise		£1.00	£1.70	£3.58
langhorn08	Call		£0.80	£2.50	£3.24
djrelapse	Fold
Flop
		8 3 2
demondave	All-in		£3.58	£6.08	£0.00
langhorn08	All-in		£3.24	£9.32	£0.00
demondave	Unmatched bet		£0.34	£8.98	£0.34
demondave	Show	A A
langhorn08	Show	9 A
Turn
		3
River
		4
langhorn08	Win	Flush to the Ace	£8.31

unknown_username

bum innit. can see why he called in a sense, with the flop he had 2 overcards, just got lucky with the flush..

demondave

In Response to Why you can not win at low stakes...:

Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance djrelapse Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £13.89 demondave Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £4.58   Your hole cards A A       flick0121 Fold         langhorn08 Raise   £0.30 £0.45 £4.04 TheRat1 Fold         djrelapse Call   £0.25 £0.70 £13.64 demondave Raise   £1.00 £1.70 £3.58 langhorn08 Call   £0.80 £2.50 £3.24 djrelapse Fold         Flop     8 3 2       demondave All-in   £3.58 £6.08 £0.00 langhorn08 All-in   £3.24 £9.32 £0.00 demondave Unmatched bet   £0.34 £8.98 £0.34 demondave Show A A       langhorn08 Show 9 A       Turn     3       River     4       langhorn08 Win Flush to the Ace £8.31
Posted by demondave

see why he called with a ace 9 ok

tapeworm

n Response to Re: Why you can not win at low stakes...:

bum innit. can see why he called in a sense, with the flop he had 2 overcards, just got lucky with the flush..
Posted by Scottomus0

please explain how this call is even remotely acceptable call? Its horrendous. bad beat to the OP

Although i disagree with why thats the reason you will never win at low stakes.........the fact you think that is.......thats the reason

demondave

Hand History #304449435 (22:17 03/11/2010)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
church04	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£10.92
sol528505	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£1.48
	Your hole cards	K K
boboboya	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£7.18
KP03	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£3.26
cannibal03	Raise		£0.24	£0.52	£12.88
demondave	All-in		£2.80	£3.32	£0.00
church04	Fold
sol528505	Fold
boboboya	Call		£2.72	£6.04	£4.46
KP03	Fold
cannibal03	Fold
boboboya	Show	4 Q
demondave	Show	K K
Flop
		7 A Q
Turn
		4
River
		10
boboboya	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 4s	£5.59

shelski

In Response to Why you can not win at low stakes...:
In fairness this can happen at ANY level for a variety of reasons and does often.
Please understand that A-A is really not that strong, NO HAND IS.
7-2 os beats it all in pre 1 time in 8 which is not unusual. On some days it's often.
Poker isn't like this, it is it. Sux huh ? It's how you deal with it that counts.
Sorry man. You know what i mean ?

GaryQQQ

On the flop you had 94% equity in the pot, your opponent only had 6%. Finding callers in situations like this is highly desirable and is a reason why you will win at low stakes. Every now and then he/she will get lucky, but that's poker, most times you will take their stack.

Ms_Chips

so in short, you are proposing that being miles ahead against a back door draw is why you can not win at low stakes poker?

Do you lose these... eh, well.. flips all the time?

The_Don90

for a note a reason why NL4 is beatable. Ok so i get stacked, im not bothered why? Because i can simply make a note on my opponent, i clearly out play him, i kill his odds flush. So as a result im not upset at losing because i got it in as a favorite.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.83
Lola80	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.22
	Your hole cards	K A
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.46
HOG60	Call		£0.20	£0.46	£1.45
SPARTASC	Call		£0.20	£0.66	£4.42
	Call		£0.18	£0.84	£3.65
Lola80	Fold
Flop
		K 8 2
	Bet		£0.84	£1.68	£2.81
The_Don90	All-in		£3.46	£5.14	£0.00
HOG60	Fold
SPARTASC	Fold
	All-in		£2.81	£7.95	£0.00
	Unmatched bet		£0.19	£7.76	£0.19
	Show	6 7
The_Don90	Show	K A
Turn
		10
River
		5
	Win	Flush to the 8	£7.18		£7.37

walesboy

It happens mate.
Had aces yesterday beaten by a 9 high flush.
Made a note against them and went away.
Came back later and was on their table again. Managed to stack them this time as I had an idea of how they played.
As Don says over time you'll beat them.

Ms_Chips

In Response to Re: Why you can not win at low stakes...:

It happens mate. Had aces yesterday beaten by a 9 high flush. Made a note against them and went away. Came back later and was on their table again. Managed to stack them this time as I had an idea of how they played. As Don says over time you'll beat them.
Posted by walesboy

But he said you can't win at low stakes poker. So you couldn't have stacked them.

walesboy

In Response to Re: Why you can not win at low stakes...:

In Response to Re: Why you can not win at low stakes... : But he said you can't win at low stakes poker. So you couldn't have stacked them.
Posted by Ms_Chips

LOL maybe I was dreaming!

demondave

In Response to Re: Why you can not win at low stakes...:

In Response to Why you can not win at low stakes... : In fairness this can happen at ANY level for a variety of reasons and does often. Please understand that A-A is really not that strong, NO HAND IS. 7-2 os beats it all in pre 1 time in 8 which is not unusual. On some days it's often. Poker isn't like this, it is it. Sux huh ? It's how you deal with it that counts. Sorry man. You know what i mean ?
Posted by shelski

The main point is you get a lot more donkeys at the lower stakes who will call a 25 x raise ace 9 suited then call the rest of their stack with no pair or no draw, just because it is LOW stakes. The many response i get are why not its only £3 pounds "pennies mate". Would you call 25 x raise playing £1/£2 with ace 9 then the rest of your stack with no draw what so ever NNNOOOOOOOOO.

KAM99

This is nuts this whole topic. You are using examples where you got outdrawn by a bad hand to say that is why you can't beat the low stakes. Are you kidding me? The day you don't want some idiot calling when he is 10-20% shot to win is the day you should just give up poker altogether. BE GLAD that you have those donks making the dumb calls. They may get lucky and hit sometimes, thats why any hand has a chance preflop, but poker is NOT about SHORT TERM results. Its about profits over months of sessions making the right choices.

So seriouisly forget about this garbage about people making bad calls being the reason you can't beat a certain buyin level, as it really is just garbage. YOu WANT people making bad calls or you don't ever get paid with your big hands if everyone makes the brilliant or wise laydown.

shelski

In Response to Re: Why you can not win at low stakes...:

This is nuts this whole topic. You are using examples where you got outdrawn by a bad hand to say that is why you can't beat the low stakes. Are you kidding me? The day you don't want some idiot calling when he is 10-20% shot to win is the day you should just give up poker altogether. BE GLAD that you have those donks making the dumb calls. They may get lucky and hit sometimes, thats why any hand has a chance preflop, but poker is NOT about SHORT TERM results. Its about profits over months of sessions making the right choices. So seriouisly forget about this garbage about people making bad calls being the reason you can't beat a certain buyin level, as it really is just garbage. YOu WANT people making bad calls or you don't ever get paid with your big hands if everyone makes the brilliant or wise laydown.
Posted by KAM99

Total sense.
Would you go to a casino and after getting sucked out on by a drunk person with money to burn that just wants 'a bit of fun' complain to the casino manager that it's not right ?
It can be frustrating but the virtue of patience in the poker doesn't  just apply to the game you are currently involved in. Try to relax a bit man. Maybe apply the negative energy of indignation into learning as much as you can. Generate more edges ?