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TSP OTS: Gliterbabe vs yi1988
Happy Monday all!
I've just been railing Team Sky Poker memmber Wayne Rideout - aka Gliterbabe - playing what appears to be a really interesting heads-up match against yi1988 when a hand sprung up that I think is worth debate. In the spirit of ATOTW (Acronymns Taking Over The World), I'm going to call this TSP OTS: Team Sky Poker Over The Shoulder. Snappy, I know. Orford would love that title. Anyway, to the hand in question.
You're in the shoes of none other than Gliterbabe, who has been playing a £1.50/£3 heads-up session against yi1988. The action so far has been fairly standard, with only a light amount of 3- and 4-betting preflop. We're in the big blind as Wayne looks down at Ac-6d.
The Action:
Yi1988 completes in the small blind and Gliterbabe raises it up to £12. Yi1988 flat calls.
Dealing the flop (8d,Qh,Jd).
GliterBabe checks. Yi1988 checks behind. What do we make of Gliterbabe's check here? What kind of hands we do we put Yi1988 on given the action so far (preflop and on the flop).
Dealing the turn (3d).
GliterBabe checks, Yi1988 bets £12 and Gliterbabe decides to call with the small flush draw and ace-high. Again, how do we feel about this call? How many of you make this call thinking you might be ahead? How many of you are going to be happy if the river comes a diamond?
Dealing the river (9h).
GliterBabe checked.Yi1988 checks behind. Gliterbabe shows Ac-6d. What do you think Yi1988 showed? Do we think Gliterbabe's got the best hand here?
I've just been railing Team Sky Poker memmber Wayne Rideout - aka Gliterbabe - playing what appears to be a really interesting heads-up match against yi1988 when a hand sprung up that I think is worth debate. In the spirit of ATOTW (Acronymns Taking Over The World), I'm going to call this TSP OTS: Team Sky Poker Over The Shoulder. Snappy, I know. Orford would love that title. Anyway, to the hand in question.
You're in the shoes of none other than Gliterbabe, who has been playing a £1.50/£3 heads-up session against yi1988. The action so far has been fairly standard, with only a light amount of 3- and 4-betting preflop. We're in the big blind as Wayne looks down at Ac-6d.
The Action:
Yi1988 completes in the small blind and Gliterbabe raises it up to £12. Yi1988 flat calls.
Dealing the flop (8d,Qh,Jd).
GliterBabe checks. Yi1988 checks behind. What do we make of Gliterbabe's check here? What kind of hands we do we put Yi1988 on given the action so far (preflop and on the flop).
Dealing the turn (3d).
GliterBabe checks, Yi1988 bets £12 and Gliterbabe decides to call with the small flush draw and ace-high. Again, how do we feel about this call? How many of you make this call thinking you might be ahead? How many of you are going to be happy if the river comes a diamond?
Dealing the river (9h).
GliterBabe checked.Yi1988 checks behind. Gliterbabe shows Ac-6d. What do you think Yi1988 showed? Do we think Gliterbabe's got the best hand here?
Comments
He definately doesnt have a strong hand pre, i would say k rag. q rag j rag at best.
When gb checks i would think the villain may have a stab here IP as the heck from gb is either weakness or trappy. But when he checks behind, i feel he may have hit a piece of this flop. Maybe top pair/two pair/fd ect..
Turn is a scary card as it brings the flush. When gb checks again, the other dude has to bet now to either protect his hand or pounce on the weakness.
GB knows he has checked twice and looks weak so calls with the ace high and the flush draw.
If the villain did flop top pair or two pair the river is a killer card for the action. The turn brought the flush, the river the straight, and as soon as he checks the river i rekon he has top or two pair on the flop.
If he has air he would prob take a stab at the river as he has no showdown value and gb has shown no strength post flop he must feel a bet would take the pot, because gb wouldnt play a fd like this, and would prob lead the river if has straight.
So when he checks i rekon he has some showdown value.
I have ticked two pairs, although q 7 ect hands are also possible, but he may turn those into bluffs on the river.
Prob miles off but i thought id get the ball rolling! lol
Also think that GB calling OOP with essentially a 6hiFD is pretty terrible. The only reason why you would do that is if he is bluffy/gets out of line a lot. And if thats the case then he's gonna put on serious pressure on any scare card river if indeed he does have air that A high can't beat.
From glitterbabes pov(point of view) i would say like the re-raise pre with a6, i'd probably c bet on that flop rep either the q or j and if re-raised would get rid. turn bet from yi just looks like a steal but could easy have small pair here, check on river generally weak but still think could call with similar hands as gb or a pair with intent on calling. GB good check behind as showdown with ace, could win it but wouldnt be suprised if yi has a jack. All of this is readless as have no idea how opponent is
Preflop he may think GB is making a move, so calls to see a flop- when GB checks, he may be worried about a possible trap play, and decides to float off another card. Turn brings the flush draw, and with another check from GB he thinks perhaps a bet can push him off, and he still has a solid draw. The call probably worries him. Then the river hits and he pairs up, and decides to check behind with some showdown value at the end, worried about a top pair kind of hand which is willing to check call any reasonable bet.
Sky Dave
i could be totally wrong, but hey,
Nice first post ladeelou welcome to the clinic(poker that is lol) hope we see you around here more often xx
OK, how would have played the hand differently without reads to the way GB did? Readless, I would have c-bet the flop and barrelled the turn, for what it's worth....
Some interesting thoughts on here and of course Beaneh raises a good point about context and stack sizes being of the utmost importance.
The hand itself was interesting the way that I personally felt both players played the hand in quite a restrained way. yi1988 ended up showing down J-8 for a flopped bottom two pair. The hand only makes sense to me if he was intending on check-raising an expected c-bet from Gliterbabe. Otherwise I'd personally feel that board is too wet to let Wayne catch something, a view which is probably endorsed when two wet cards kill his action on the turn and river.
Anyone disagree? Props to Dan by the way for nailing the hand.
Dave
Conclusion: the hand makes no/very little sense to me.
*Edit - i suppose you'd have to take it from a game that no-one was watching though! lol