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Very early hand in mtt, flop middle set on flushing board lots of action!

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  • edited November 2010
     No problem with that Greg I'm still learning & have lots to learn obviously the advantage i have is knowing more about you & Ryan through Sky Poker TV than you know of me (we have played before but i don't think we clashed). I wasn't particularly looking to get involved early on but hit some nice cards & flops. I knew Ryan had to have a hand but the only decision I had was to call or go all in.Response to Re: Very early hand in mtt, flop middle set on flushing board lots of action!:
    fwiw I think this could be a fold seeing as scotty's range doesnt include KK+/43s ever imo (and 54s is very doubtful). Also I think an unknown's stacking off range 100bbs deep will be narrower than the one beaneh gave (but in terms of equity calculations I don't think this makes too much difference given how narrow scotty's range is). In game I'm not folding 44 though, I think I could find a fold with 33.
    Posted by yb
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: Very early hand in mtt, flop middle set on flushing board lots of action!:
    stop playing then greg sounds like you need a break.
    Posted by beaneh
    agreed

    ActionCardsAmountPotBalanceRubes375 Small blind  10.00 10.00 2470.00 latics-fan Big blind  20.00 30.00 2480.00   Your hole cards 4 4       scotty77 Call  20.00 50.00 1925.00 Iroller Call  20.00 70.00 2480.00 Doudeau Fold     GREGHOGG Call  20.00 90.00 2470.00 Rubes375 Fold     latics-fan Check     Flop    3 4 5       latics-fan Check     scotty77 Bet  125.00 215.00 1800.00 Iroller Call  125.00 340.00 2355.00 GREGHOGG Raise  460.00 800.00 2010.00 latics-fan Fold     scotty77 All-in  1800.00 2600.00 0.00 Iroller Call  1800.00 4400.00 555.00 GREGHOGG Fold     scotty77 Show 3 3    Iroller Show A 10    Turn    Q       River    9       Iroller Win Flush to the Ace 4400.00  4955.00
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: Very early hand in mtt, flop middle set on flushing board lots of action!:
    In Response to Re: Very early hand in mtt, flop middle set on flushing board lots of action! : In my current state of mind i need the nut or 2nd, or poss 3rd nut flush. 55, i just dont know... guess i find the fold, same as 44!!!
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    2nd/3rd nut flush you can be as dead as Michael Jackson.

    with 55 you know you have outs unless you run into straight flushywush
  • edited November 2010
    exit hand, a few hands later...

    the sick thing is, that i actually put him on AA, but i thought, no he cant have that the poker gods wont sc rew me again.. will they?

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceIroller Small blind  15.00 15.00 5215.00 Doudeau Big blind  30.00 45.00 5880.00   Your hole cards K A       GREGHOGG Raise  90.00 135.00 1815.00 Rubes375 Fold     penguin7 Fold     CALRHI Fold     Iroller Raise  195.00 330.00 5020.00 Doudeau Fold     GREGHOGG Call  120.00 450.00 1695.00 Flop    10 7 8       Iroller Check     GREGHOGG Bet  337.50 787.50 1357.50 Iroller All-in  5020.00 5807.50 0.00 GREGHOGG All-in  1357.50 7165.00 0.00 Iroller Unmatched bet  3325.00 3840.00 3325.00 Iroller Show A A    GREGHOGG Show K A    Turn    10       River    J       Iroller Win Two Pairs, Aces and 10s 3840.00  7165.00
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: Very early hand in mtt, flop middle set on flushing board lots of action!:
    In Response to Re: Very early hand in mtt, flop middle set on flushing board lots of action! : 2nd/3rd nut flush you can be as dead as Michael Jackson. with 55 you know you have outs unless you run into straight flushywush
    Posted by scotty77
    i must learn maths
  • edited November 2010
    Personally i would fold and look away, if just scotty i would snap call but cos of unknown likely they got flush here and i dont want to have to hit to stay in the tournement got plenty of chips behind

    I understand what beaneh has put and well explained but im not really a maths person, scotty could have low flush or lower set here possible higher, but with 2 people in it i would not be confident a) im ahead b) i will hit

  • edited November 2010

    Nah course I don't fold, I've got a set. Al the maths and stuff goes out the window for me, although it was an unbelievably good fold that u managed to make!!!

    Going on to stack off with a bare K high flush draw is abit weak though after folding in that spot!!!!

    Did u see my exit hand on the final table bubble of the 8pm last night? 

    I felt absolutely crushed!!!!!!! I still do.

    Oh and the results orientated dig - Yet again, the result is all that matters. So well played. 
  • edited November 2010
    EARLY STAGE OF A TOURNEY , IM FOLDING ALL DAY LONG HERE AND WITH NO REGRET , NOMATTER WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD OF BEEN.
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: Very early hand in mtt, flop middle set on flushing board lots of action!:
    Nah course I don't fold, I've got a set. Al the maths and stuff goes out the window for me, although it was an unbelievably good fold that u managed to make!!! Going on to stack off with a bare K high flush draw is abit weak though after folding in that spot!!!! Did u see my exit hand on the final table bubble of the 8pm last night?  I felt absolutely crushed!!!!!!! I still do. Oh and the results orientated dig - Yet again, the result is all that matters. So well played. 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Yes, i know! It was awful play. If i am prepared to gamble with K high flush then why not with trying to hit a fh in a 3 way mega pot. My game doesnt make sense sometimes and i knew it was bad play but i still did it!, im gonna take some time off playing soon like Beaneh suggested so i can come back fresh and in the right frame of mind for playing.

    No i didnt see your exit hand i will take a look if its in the clinic.
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