this is why

lucky77777

right to all those that say what a silly bet allin with aa and anyone who wishes to say it again i will refer them to this thread

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance Small blind 40.0040.0012690.00 Big blind 80.00120.005670.00 Your hole cardsAA   lucky77777Raise 400.00520.0013455.00 Fold     Fold     Fold     Fold     Call 320.00840.005350.00Flop  9210    Bet 720.001560.004630.00lucky77777All-in 13455.0015015.000.00smokingk9All-in 4630.0019645.000.00lucky77777Unmatched bet 8105.0011540.008105.00 Show10J   lucky77777ShowAA   Turn  J   River  5    WinTwo Pairs, Jacks and 10s11540.00 11540.00

DOHHHHHHH

Yeh but this time u didnt open shove preflop. U did the right thing and made a proper raise. 

So instead of winning the blinds, you got all your money in as a big favourite. 

This will work out better for you if you keep doing it this way.

Unlucky chuck, nice to see u back xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

lucky77777

na allin preeflop everytime m8ty without fail, and ty u know deep down i wont leave lol

unknown_username

Hi Dohh

In true poker parlance you might be right.
 
But Lucky was ahead before flop and if he had bet all in preflop as he normally does he would probably have won.

I got fed up raising pre flop and then losing on flop with aa, kk etc so I play the old Lucky77777 way, ie  all in pre flop. It sometimes stops people going all in against you and avoids some of the maniac calls and bad beats from this wonderful site. 

It might not be right but it feels better when you lose.
 

spornybol

this is how you win with aces lol

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
rossjb14	Small blind		400.00	400.00	14456.00
spornybol	Big blind		800.00	1200.00	29344.00
	Your hole cards	A A
rossjb14	Raise		1200.00	2400.00	13256.00
spornybol	Raise		2400.00	4800.00	26944.00
rossjb14	Call		1600.00	6400.00	11656.00
Flop
		2 6 4
spornybol	Check
rossjb14	All-in		11656.00	18056.00	0.00
spornybol	Call		11656.00	29712.00	15288.00
rossjb14	Show	10 6
spornybol	Show	A A
Turn
		J
River
		7
spornybol	Win	Flush to the Ace	29712.00		45000.00

Ms_Chips

In Response to Re: this is why:

Hi Dohh In true poker parlance you might be right.     
Posted by vaigret

LOL, he defo is right, suck up the bad beats and raise properly it will in the long run enhance your chances of winning tournaments. What happens if the Jack doesn't fall, a healthy double up which is what will happen more often than not.

SHANXTA

sigh

play your hands with confidence, like spornybol, and watch the rewards come in

debdobs_67

This one's ok i hope?

Hand History #307076408 (09:26 12/11/2010)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
TEDDER63	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.78
debdobs_67	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	A A
greedy5	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.67
nuttyboy1	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£2.33
labrat64	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£2.80
RH45	Call		£0.04	£0.22	£3.22
TEDDER63	Raise		£0.06	£0.28	£2.72
debdobs_67	Raise		£0.36	£0.64	£3.60
greedy5	Fold
nuttyboy1	Fold
labrat64	Fold
RH45	Fold
TEDDER63	Call		£0.32	£0.96	£2.40
Flop
		K 2 J
TEDDER63	Bet		£0.12	£1.08	£2.28
debdobs_67	All-in		£3.60	£4.68	£0.00
TEDDER63	All-in		£2.28	£6.96	£0.00
debdobs_67	Unmatched bet		£1.20	£5.76	£1.20
TEDDER63	Show	Q K
debdobs_67	Show	A A
Turn
		5
River
		7
debdobs_67	Win	Pair of Aces	£5.32		£6.52

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YOUNG_GUN

well done lucky thats exactly what you should do with aces not shoving pre you miss so much value!!! unlucky but played it fine went in massive fave usually you would have just taken the blinds had you just gone all in but correct move

lucky77777

well big thx to everyone but my aa is allin every time as usual cos if i went allin then i would still have had 13,575

pod1

must admit lucky ,i play it like you, try and get 1 caller for value and shove post. bug g g e r me backwards with a sharp thing when it goes wrong ,but got to get paid somehow. ps is it too early to start drinking after shock!

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: this is why:

must admit lucky ,i play it like you, try and get 1 caller for value and shove post. bug g g e r me backwards with a sharp thing when it goes wrong ,but got to get paid somehow. ps is it too early to start drinking after shock!
Posted by pod1

No its ok ;o)

scotty77

helps to run like this tbf

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tyek	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£62.02
FINS	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£29.75
Headup2	Sit out
	Your hole cards	Q Q
pot147	Raise		£1.50	£1.95	£50.73
scotty77	Raise		£4.20	£6.15	£25.80
shellwales	Fold
tyek	Fold
FINS	Fold
pot147	All-in		£50.73	£56.88	£0.00
scotty77	All-in		£25.80	£82.68	£0.00
pot147	Unmatched bet		£22.23	£60.45	£22.23
pot147	Show	A K
scotty77	Show	Q Q
Flop
		9 7 2
Turn
		Q
River
		Q
scotty77	Win	Four Queens	£58.65		£58.65

shaun09

lol scotty this wont happen to any of us. Only you!

debdobs_67

LOOOL scotty vvnh,xxx

unknown_username

Mrs chips and dohh

i bow to your superior knowledge.

I just think a raise and allowing them 3 extra cards narrows your chance of winning.

With aa and that flop Lucky was always going to go all in and what happened he lost.

Seen it so many times with aa

I will continue to take my chances with a race from the off and hope I get a caller pre flop.

God bless you all

Keevil

Scotty it now has to be said...... U r my hero

JingleMa

In Response to Re: this is why:

Mrs chips and dohh i bow to your superior knowledge. I just think a raise and allowing them 3 extra cards narrows your chance of winning. With aa and that flop Lucky was always going to go all in and what happened he lost. Seen it so many times with aa I will continue to take my chances with a race from the off and hope I get a caller pre flop. God bless you all
Posted by vaigret

So you'd rather shove and pick up 120 chips from the blinds?

If you shove and get called, you still have a chance of getting sucked out on.

There's a clip on youtube of an amateur shoving on Negreanu in the early stages of a big tournie when the blinds are still tiny and Negreanu says, "You're all in? What's that about?"

The amateur replies, "That's poker."

"Not where I come from." responds Negreanu, and folds his hand.

Moral of the story - get paid with your aces!

donkeyplop

If you can't win consistantly with aces it's time to give up imo.

lucky77777

jingle they say fet your chips in good and you cant get no better than aa if you get called you can only be unlucky

if you raise 5times big blind like i did on this accasion and lost cos i let him hit to be able for him to call cos if got top pair out 

but allin preeflop i dont think he would of called there for i would of still had 13,575 and on to the next hand

i decided to only raise to prove a point and i have proved it dont limp with aces your get stung

donkeyplop

why not play them this way???

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
xxx	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£7.68
scott522	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£3.03
	Your hole cards	A A
mrsnacho23	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£0.40	£0.52	£13.79
xxx	Raise		£1.64	£2.16	£6.04
scott522	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£3.84	£6.00	£9.95
xxx	All-in		£6.04	£12.04	£0.00
donkeyplop	Call		£3.48	£15.52	£6.47
xxx	Show	K K
donkeyplop	Show	A A
Flop
		5 8 5
Turn
		6
River
		10
donkeyplop	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 5s	£14.35		£20.82

spornybol

In Response to Re: this is why:

why not play them this way??? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance xxx Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £7.68 scott522 Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £3.03   Your hole cards A A       mrsnacho23 Fold         donkeyplop Raise   £0.40 £0.52 £13.79 xxx Raise   £1.64 £2.16 £6.04 scott522 Fold         donkeyplop Raise   £3.84 £6.00 £9.95 xxx All-in   £6.04 £12.04 £0.00 donkeyplop Call   £3.48 £15.52 £6.47 xxx Show K K       donkeyplop Show A A       Flop     5 8 5       Turn     6       River     10       donkeyplop Win Two Pairs, Aces and 5s £14.35   £20.82
Posted by donkeyplop

that`s the boring way ? lol

donkeyplop

It was all in pre like lucy likes but done in a way that you get paid from aces

debdobs_67

Donkey you run soooooooo good,xxx

YOUNG_GUN

lucky just a point as you advertise how you play aces on the forum and often play us all mix it up a little

firstly make that same move when your not as strong maybe QQ or KK, AK even

secondly when you get aces, we all know you shove so if you play as you did here would probably get paid

Just a wee bit of friendly advice i think the way you play it is terrible tbh but each to their own try using to your advantage

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: this is why:

lucky just a point as you advertise how you play aces on the forum and often play us all mix it up a little firstly make that same move when your not as strong maybe QQ or KK, AK even secondly when you get aces, we all know you shove so if you play as you did here would probably get paid Just a wee bit of friendly advice i think the way you play it is terrible tbh but each to their own try using to your advantage
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

Shhhhhhhhhhh,dont tell him ;o)

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: this is why:

In Response to Re: this is why : Shhhhhhhhhhh,dont tell him ;o)
Posted by debdobs_67

Doubt he'll listen to be honest he has had so much advice from better players(and me) but still to narrow minded about playing aces because once he got unlucky playing it the right way

maybe he gets a call everytime with small pp and still loses then we're gonna be back to rigged lucy some people just no point helping

DOHHHHHHH

She won't listen anyway, She's a plonka!

Love yooooooooooo Loooooooooooooooooooooocy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

lucky77777

In Response to Re: this is why:

lucky just a point as you advertise how you play aces on the forum and often play us all mix it up a little firstly make that same move when your not as strong maybe QQ or KK, AK even secondly when you get aces, we all know you shove so if you play as you did here would probably get paid Just a wee bit of friendly advice i think the way you play it is terrible tbh but each to their own try using to your advantage
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

omg i dont only play aces lol and i dont cash alot for nothing ok i will not give no more advice to anyone shove it

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: this is why:

In Response to Re: this is why : omg i dont only play aces lol and i dont cash alot for nothing ok i will not give no more advice to anyone shove it
Posted by lucky77777

This is exacty what u shouldn't do.

Taking poker advice from you Lucy is like asking the homeless guy outside KFC for financial advice.

spornybol

In Response to Re: this is why:

In Response to Re: this is why : This is exacty what u shouldn't do. Taking poker advice from you Lucy is like asking the homeless guy outside KFC for financial advice.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

how would you know have you taken financial advice from a homeless person outside kfc and did they share there white-lighting with you ??