Was I Right to Shove? (On 3 limpers)

Red_King

Short stack in blind, 3 limpers
comments please

Got lucky on river tho'

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
hardyboy19	Small blind		300.00	300.00	4178.33
Red_King	Big blind		600.00	900.00	1400.00
	Your hole cards	2 3
lubobhoy	Fold
gboy007	Call		600.00	1500.00	3420.00
mabs789	Fold
gooner163	Call		600.00	2100.00	14890.00
hardyboy19	Call		300.00	2400.00	3878.33
Red_King	All-in		1400.00	3800.00	0.00
gboy007	Fold
gooner163	Call		1400.00	5200.00	13490.00
hardyboy19	Fold
Red_King	Show	2 3
gooner163	Show	6 6
Flop
		6 4 K
Turn
		2
River
		Q
Red_King	Win	Flush to the Queen	5200.00		5200.00

freechips1

you have no fold equity, you need 10-12 bigs to get some folds

xDJSIGNx

In Response to Was I Right to Shove? (On 3 limpers):

Short stack in blind, 3 limpers comments please Got lucky on river tho' Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance hardyboy19 Small blind   300.00 300.00 4178.33 Red_King Big blind   600.00 900.00 1400.00   Your hole cards 2 3       lubobhoy Fold         gboy007 Call   600.00 1500.00 3420.00 mabs789 Fold         gooner163 Call   600.00 2100.00 14890.00 hardyboy19 Call   300.00 2400.00 3878.33 Red_King All-in   1400.00 3800.00 0.00 gboy007 Fold         gooner163 Call   1400.00 5200.00 13490.00 hardyboy19 Fold         Red_King Show 2 3       gooner163 Show 6 6       Flop     6 4 K       Turn     2       River     Q       Red_King Win Flush to the Queen 5200.00   5200.00
Posted by Red_King

i think that just the fact that you won the hand says you was right to push how ever if i was you this time id smile to my self  and say yesssssss

Red_King

In Response to Re: Was I Right to Shove? (On 3 limpers):

you have no fold equity, you need 10-12 bigs to get some folds
Posted by freechips1

I figured they all had nothing special,
If I just call I've no chance of the pot,
and my stack just gets blinded again.
Only expected a call with A? or pair.

freechips1

its 1400 to win 3800, you will get called by any 2 cards.  3/1 is big in holdem

The_Don90

In Response to Re: Was I Right to Shove? (On 3 limpers):

its 1400 to win 3800, you will get called by any 2 cards.  3/1 is big in holdem
Posted by freechips1

Indeed, i probably would call with 72os becuase if u dnt have a pair im getting the right odds.

GaryQQQ

It was a good shove IMO because it successfully made 2 of the limpers fold and gave you excellent odds. If all 3 had called you'd be on thin ice with 23o, but at least if your cards did get lucky you'd quadruple up and be right back in it.

Shoving OOP at an unraised pot with any 2 against several timid limpers is probably a good +ev move when you're down to say 5 to 10 BB. It's less likely to work in bounty hunter tournaments where you'll find the players tend to call much lighter than usual chasing bounties.

Red_King

In Response to Re: Was I Right to Shove? (On 3 limpers):

It was a good shove IMO because it successfully made 2 of the limpers fold and gave you excellent odds. If all 3 had called you'd be on thin ice with 23o, but at least if your cards did get lucky you'd quadruple up and be right back in it. Shoving OOP at an unraised pot with any 2 against several timid limpers is probably a good +ev move when you're down to say 5 to 10 BB. It's less likely to work in bounty hunter tournaments where you'll find the players tend to call much lighter than usual chasing bounties.
Posted by GaryQQQ

Cheers Gary,
2 of the limpers would have had to call ~40% of their stack just to see the flop,
and with the big stack calling and not showing any aggro pre, (he was set mining),
If I hadn't shoved he would have cleaned-up, as he hit his set on the flop.

freechips1

i give up

CLIOKID

In the simplest terms...

No, no you weren't.

Thanks for listening.

Mr_Miyagi

when your that short and know you need to shove and get lucky to stand a chance you might as well shove when there is more money in the pot.

If you folded and waited for the next hand and took the blind, you would still be in a bad position.

So I would say it was the right move.

LOL_RAISE

i think its really close actually, 56s+ i would definately ship it in but 23o is the actual worst hand to be doing it with

N1CK

shoving against 3 limpers with 3 high is suicidal, its not wrong to be called giving 2/1 which makes 3/1 pretty easy

GREGHOGG

bad shove, no fold equity

23 o/s is not a good hand to gamble with

dont give up freechips1, i get it lol