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turning point in primo,

edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
This was my turning point in the primo. I was about 4th at the time and blinds were low to my stack.
Should i have folded pre?, and could i have done anything different?
The hand later was a big one and when you see it you will see where i went wrong (will comment when i post it)
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
major1962 Small blind  150.00 150.00 10340.00
solstace Big blind  300.00 450.00 2390.00
  Your hole cards
  • 2
  • 3
     
ALLIZWELL Call  300.00 750.00 13467.50
LOL_RAISE Fold     
muffin_man Fold     
DAIBOOT Fold     
major1962 Call  150.00 900.00 10190.00
solstace Check     
Flop
   
  • 10
  • 2
  • 2
     
major1962 Check     
solstace All-in  2390.00 3290.00 0.00
ALLIZWELL Call  2390.00 5680.00 11077.50
major1962 Call  2390.00 8070.00 7800.00
Turn
   
  • 5
     
major1962 Check     
ALLIZWELL Check     
River
   
  • Q
     
major1962 Check     
ALLIZWELL Check     
major1962 Show
  • 2
  • 3
   
solstace Muck
  • 10
  • 9
   
ALLIZWELL Show
  • J
  • J
   
ALLIZWELL Win Flush to the Queen 8070.00

Comments

  • edited November 2010
    This was 2 hands later.  Did i do right by pushing or with a large beat behind me should i have called and see where i was after the flop?, or......?
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    ALLIZWELL Small blind 150.00 150.00 17497.50
    LOL_RAISE Big blind  300.00 450.00 12702.50
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
         
    muffin_man Fold     
    DAIBOOT Raise  900.00 1350.00 2725.00
    major1962 All-in  9300.00 10650.00 0.00
    ALLIZWELL Fold     
    LOL_RAISE Fold     
    DAIBOOT All-in  2725.00 13375.00 0.00
    major1962 Unmatched bet  5675.00 7700.00 5675.00
    DAIBOOT Show
    • A
    • A
       
    major1962 Show
    • A
    • K
       
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 3
    • J
         
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    River
       
    • 9
         
    DAIBOOT Win Two Pairs, Aces and 3s 7700.00
  • edited November 2010
    hand 1) shove flop flush draw out there unless you think they have 10 10 or 2 with better kicker

    Hand 2) not imo, mainly due to only getting called by pp JJ+ unless there a bad player, re-raise then re-evaluate based on the player & flop if you see one
  • edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: turning point in primo,:
    hand 1) shove flop flush draw out there unless you think they have 10 10 or 2 with better kicker Hand 2) not imo, mainly due to only getting called by pp JJ+ unless there a bad player, re-raise then re-evaluate based on the player & flop if you see one
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Hand 1, i was against a player who out stacked me and was aware he could have been holding 10 10 or an over pair.
    If i shoved it would have been for my tournament so would you have folded JJ in that position against my shove?

    Thanks for replying as ive started to THINK more about my game.

    I went out of the primo about 15 outside the money which dissapointed me as id played well up to this point.
    After these two hands i lost to a player who hit the flop, managed to double up to 4k a few hands later as a short stak then
    on the button i shoved with 44 to a big blind with A9 hitting the river. I think i maybe should have folded the 44 and waited for a better spot as i was close to cashing and blinds were 300/600?
  • edited November 2010
    Hi Major,

    It depends, personally i doubt i would have called pre. After that flop if you put him on 10s would not flat here would fold, could only fold with super read here though. I personally thought be unlikely someone just calls/checks with 10+ in this case they have but thats my way of thinking, only hand im worried about is A2 which would be incredibly unlucky otherwise only should get called by bare 10 and people with 2 diamonds on the flop imo.

    very well played btw 15 of cashing you are defo doing some things right. best of luck at the tables bud
  • edited November 2010
    Hand 1: Fold pre, You have 23 - the worst hand in poker. As played raise and get the money in on the flop IMO, after he calls for that much he isn't folding. If you don't raise the flop, then shove the turn - he hasn't got the flush that much and you need to protect from/get paid for the 4th diamond falling, Also you can't fold trips here anyway just on the chance he's got a flush, so bet.

    Hand 2 - Well played unlucky. 

    Actually you were unlucky all round really :(
  • edited November 2010
    omg im in a hand history desiplaying my expert folding skills yay.

    hand 1 i think jamming the flop is best, the person with JJ would never fold any Tx or better imo.

    hand2 is super standard and a huge cooler ul.
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