FULL HOUSE TURNED INTO A BLUFF GONE WRONG

INFINITYEV

Please help as I think I messed this hand up pre flop, flop, turn and river

When he checks the river I put him on a Q and thought I could get him to fold and take the whole pot instead of splitting it.  What hand do you put him and how do you think I should have played all the streets.  I couldn't put him on quads as he bet out when the third 8 hit on the turn.  Should I have just checked behind river or should I have called his river shove?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
TATTIES	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£22.90
INFINITYEV	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£19.84
	Your hole cards	K Q
blwcdenn	Raise		£0.80	£1.10	£7.79
helmey	Fold
PURPLE_AKI	Fold
TATTIES	Call		£0.70	£1.80	£22.20
INFINITYEV	Call		£0.60	£2.40	£19.24
Flop
		8 Q 8
TATTIES	Bet		£2.20	£4.60	£20.00
INFINITYEV	Call		£2.20	£6.80	£17.04
blwcdenn	Fold
Turn
		8
TATTIES	Bet		£3.00	£9.80	£17.00
INFINITYEV	Call		£3.00	£12.80	£14.04
River
		A
TATTIES	Check
INFINITYEV	Bet		£8.00	£20.80	£6.04
TATTIES	Raise		£16.00	£36.80	£1.00
INFINITYEV	Fold
TATTIES	Muck
TATTIES	Win		£27.36		£28.36
TATTIES	Return		£8.00	£1.44	£36.36

LMLS2

Dunno why you think you messed up flop or turn, what else can you do on those streets? Maybe you can raise flop against some players with enough history but mostly it's just a call. Preflop isn't necessarily bad, I can see all 3 options being viable depending on how wide the guy is opening pre and how he plays to a reraise. River I'd just check back cause I wouldn't expect anyone at 10p/20p to check/fold a Queen and they may sometimes get tricky with an ace, risk not worth the reward.

GREGHOGG

check river, as i told u at the time!:)

bigwelshy

im guessin he had a 10, a j type hand and hes just fired out on the paired flop as quite often here is ace high is gd, especially if the original raiser has been active.
personally id probably like to see a raise on the turn, surely you want to try and make the pot bigger here as 4 times out of 5 the river isnt an overcard and you have the best hand??? plus the 3rd 8 for me rules out the chance of him holding one.

HartshorN

I could put him on an 8 here, he obviously has a read on you, sees you betting and representing the Queen, he hits the quads and wants to build the pot for value on the river. And when hes bravely check the river and then min-raised, alarms bells ring for quads.

Therefore i'd be checking the river here, especially with an overcard to your queen. Wasn't too much wrong with the rest of your play imo.

DOHHHHHHH

Surely you can call the river getting 6/1?

Ms_Chips

it's really tough without a read, 20nl players from the sb could really have anything. However without a  read I think the clue lies in his flop bet and 90% of the time we could bet reraising a donk bet on a paired board that isn't drawing with your whole range from BB. If he's a tight player calling a utg open from the sb then I think you can narrow him down to AQ here but it's extremely tough without any history or read.

GREGHOGG

In Response to Re: FULL HOUSE TURNED INTO A BLUFF GONE WRONG:

it's really tough without a read, 20nl players from the sb could really have anything. However without a  read I think the clue lies in his flop bet and 90% of the time we could bet reraising a donk bet on a paired board that isn't drawing with your whole range from BB. If he's a tight player calling a utg open from the sb then I think you can narrow him down to AQ here but it's extremely tough without any history or read.
Posted by Ms_Chips

I was watching the hand at the time and this was my assumption. AQ makes the most sense.

I don't think they have the 8.

waynec

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Surely you can call the river getting 6/1?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

As JJ says 6/1 you have to make a crying call.... and spew if ur beat

INFINITYEV

In Response to Re: FULL HOUSE TURNED INTO A BLUFF GONE WRONG:

check river, as i told u at the time!:)
Posted by GREGHOGG

IT IS YOUR FAULT I LOST THE HAND AS I WAS GOING TO FOLD PRE FLOP BUT YOU TOLD ME TO CALL, SO I BLAME YOU

DOHHHHHHH

It's another 6 to win 34.80?

He has just a queen enough times here to justify calling for a split.

GREGHOGG

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In Response to Re: FULL HOUSE TURNED INTO A BLUFF GONE WRONG : I bet £8 he raised to £16, so surely I have to call £8 or have I messed up my math somewhere?
Posted by INFINITYEV

You left yourself with £6.04 behind

INFINITYEV

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In Response to Re: FULL HOUSE TURNED INTO A BLUFF GONE WRONG : You left yourself with £6.04 behind
Posted by GREGHOGG

Good Point but that doesn't excuse the fact that you lost me the money Greg as I was going to fold. LOL

LMLS2

Not necessarily if he told you to check the river. LOL!

LOL_RAISE

In Response to Re: FULL HOUSE TURNED INTO A BLUFF GONE WRONG:

It's another 6 to win 34.80? He has just a queen enough times here to justify calling for a split.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

so then its 6 to win 17.3... we have to chop 25% of the time

WHOAMI196

ji

YOUNG_GUN

auto call river, curse when they show ace but considering amount you have put in the pot cannot fold

beaneh

don't bet river. once you do hate life and be like oh my days get stuffed i've got a ruddy full house and they don't come around that often and I dont wanna lose this pot and you're not very nice why did  you check raise me the min how dare you grrrrr buggggggger hmmmmmm CAWLLLL SHOW ME A BLUFF GODDDAMMIT asl;dkjfalksdjflaskdj;fkladf how do you have the Ace get beeeent.

something like that.

also generally don't try and make your self bluff with full houses. lawl