I got the minimum

HartshorN

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
kuhar2114	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.76
JTAU13	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.03
	Your hole cards	K K
andykane	Fold
budyzer	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£5.75
HartshorN	Raise		£0.20	£0.30	£4.76
kuhar2114	Fold
JTAU13	Fold
**	Call		£0.16	£0.46	£5.59
Flop
		4 8 8
**	Check
HartshorN	Bet		£0.16	£0.62	£4.60
**	Call		£0.16	£0.78	£5.43
Turn
		9
**	Check
HartshorN	Bet		£0.40	£1.18	£4.20
**	Call		£0.40	£1.58	£5.03
River
		3
**	Check
HartshorN	Bet		£0.79	£2.37	£3.41
**	Call		£0.79	£3.16	£4.24
HartshorN	Show	K K
**	Muck	Q Q
HartshorN	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 8s	£2.92

I feel i got the minimum out of this hand.

How come i didn't get the maximum here? He should know by now i don't play complete rubbish so shouldn't be putting me on a 9 maybe A9..

How do i get the maximum out here, bets i thought was okay as i wanted him to stay interested as i put him on 2 clubs and 2 overs.

thanks

The_Don90

why the weak spewy flop bet - btw if i hae QQ against you there im re-popping you every day of the week.

Turn again far too weak.

River u really put him on heartss???? Weak again

Your betting is far too weak all the way down.

Oh your opponent played this even worse but man.



Tip: Raising bigger = better = bigger pot = gets the maximum value.

HartshorN

Sort of expecting replies about my bet sizes, thought they were far to weak after seeing he had QQ, suppose i was playing cautiously too. Anyhow thnaks for the reply don.

HartshorN

Straight after your post don this happened.

HartshorN	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£8.02
LilDevil	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.52
	Your hole cards	A A
kuhar2114	Fold
jimbox50	Fold
Novella	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.09
budyzer	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£4.81
HartshorN	Raise		£0.18	£0.32	£7.84
LilDevil	Call		£0.16	£0.48	£1.36
Novella	Call		£0.16	£0.64	£0.93
budyzer	Fold
Flop
		3 6 7
HartshorN	Bet		£0.64	£1.28	£7.20
LilDevil	All-in		£1.36	£2.64	£0.00
Novella	Fold
HartshorN	Call		£0.72	£3.36	£6.48
HartshorN	Show	A A
LilDevil	Show	Q Q
Turn
		8
River
		5
HartshorN	Win	Pair of Aces	£3.10

Thought i try a bit more agressive even though 4 callers. Btw i  joined this table with 50p after winning it on the freeroll lol

The_Don90

Ah i joined a table with you before seen a few plays i wouldnt make at this level.

Right on the AA hand. Bet sizing is far better - exoessially if you look at you opponents stack.

Also relating o your above point - ive seen you post alot on the forums with some sound and good advice to players including myself. But like myself you have the game theory well but doing it alot seems a problem. Im not sure how much youve played NL4 but vast amount of people with Check/call down. Its very odd poker.

Both the above hands are great examples of this - i had a tester shot at NL20 (following a player i know to be weak) with one buy in before and i seeing 3-bets with AQos OOP by decent players something youd never see at NL4.

HartshorN

Yeh thanks man, was my first pop at 4NL.

On a break till january, so won the original 30p on a freeroll and then won a 20pdym then got up to an eventual 8pound on 4NL. So at first i was play rather tight as i wanted it to last and didn't wanna push all my chips in, but yeh after readin your advice started to play my hands more solidly as the chances i was behind were minimal.

YOUNG_GUN

bet 3/4 or pot when you have a hand, this way you will either get more when called. if they fold no biggie but likely that they are still calling on these draws at this level