Is this too nitty

The_Don90

OK just moved to this table £5.50 BI £250 GTD mtt. Early blind levels and i see QQ here and think wooo. PLayer raise and im still thinking of 3-betting. Then button shoves. Changes my whole thought process. Opinions (without reads)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceThe_Don90Small blind 15.0015.001925.00 Big blind 30.0045.001040.00 Your hole cardsQQ    Fold     Raise 150.00195.002620.00 Call 150.00345.001750.00All-in 2200.002545.000.00The_Don90Fold   

HYPETING

Not nitty at all. No need to risk whole stack so early on even if villain has AK, and obv worse, AA or KK. Good fold Don.

N1CK

i cant hit the call button quick enough

YOUNG_GUN

I'd call tbh unless button is super nit

scotty77

I don't think a fold is that bad tbf given the early level tbf.

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:

I don't think a fold is that bad tbf given the early level tbf.
Posted by scotty77

tbf ftw 

donkeyplop

Tbf If I was in a good mood it would of been a fold, but if it was a bad mood id call!

N1CK

TBF i would have nightmares if i folded this TBF

Talon

 In this situation with no reads and at this stage of the tourny for me this is a standard fold. There has been a raise a call and a 3-bet shove in front of you so those ladies would seem to be diminishing in value all the time.


  It is very hard without reads to put the button on a hand at all. It could easily be AK, AQ or any pocket pair, or even just a squeeze play to hoover up the chips. But for me i want to be the aggressor in any given situation and calling for my tourny life. It is very early and you have plenty of chips and with the original raiser still left to act i can not see the merit in risking it all at this time especially since you only have the sb invested. KK in this spot would be different with only the 1 overcard available and i would be snap calling.

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:

TBF In this situation with no reads and at this stage of the tourny for me this is a standard fold. There has been a raise a call and a 3-bet shove in front of you so those ladies would seem to be diminishing in value all the time.   It is very hard without reads to put the button on a hand at all. It could easily be AK, AQ or any pocket pair, or even just a squeeze play to hoover up the chips. But for me i want to be the aggressor in any given situation and calling for my tourny life. It is very early and you have plenty of chips and with the original raiser still left to act i can not see the merit in risking it all at this time especially since you only have the sb invested. KK in this spot would be different with only the 1 overcard available and i would be snap calling TBF.
Posted by Talon

FYP TBF disagree with your point though

scotty77

tbh i don't like all this mick taking tbf.  plz stop tyvm xxxx

N1CK

fwiw i have to agree with scotty tbf

waynec

You have to put the villian on a least AK at this stage why do you want to race for your torny life, you have very little invested wait for a better spot good fold m8! TBF TBH & IMO

PS Im a donk and would have called!

WHOAMI196

It is a bit nitty BUT by no means a bad fold a good fold to avoid a flip for sure. But great opportunity to double ur stack, me being me id rather take chances early on than chancing of being blinded out in the latter stages of the tourney.

beaneh

'i see QQ here and think wooo. '

Sick good strat.

innit.

oh and fold now whilst having your neck spazm and you shouting out swear words like a tourette sufferer.

unknown_username

I made this call yesterday withh QQ with a raise, call & a shove before me and my pocket queens never held - Now can anyone tell me where that fold button is please?

Over the last few days my QQ has lost every race, but if I keep putting them in a race on the wrong starting line, I am nearly always going to finish last (I have learnt my lesson)

beaneh

In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:

I made this call yesterday withh QQ with a raise, call & a shove before me and my pocket queens never held - Now can anyone tell me where that fold button is please? Over the last few days my QQ has lost every race, but if I keep putting them in a race on the wrong starting line, I am nearly always going to finish last (I have learnt my lesson)
Posted by POKERTREV

It's on the left sir.

The_Don90

Thanks all for your responces. I will now post results to show this wasnt result orientaited at all. I just thought looking back i should have bust here (P.S. I went on to come 4th busting the shover in the exact same situation 3 cirlces laters that time i had KK though)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceThe_Don90 Small blind  15.00 15.00 1925.00 BBBig blind  30.00 45.00 1040.00   Your hole cards Q Q       UTGFold     Origional RaiseRaise  150.00 195.00 2620.00 CallerCall  150.00 345.00 1750.00 ShoverAll-in  2200.00 2545.00 0.00 The_Don90 Fold     BBAll-in  1040.00 3585.00 0.00 Origional RaiseFold     CallerAll-in  1750.00 5335.00 0.00 ShoverUnmatched bet  300.00 5035.00 300.00 BBShow K A    CallerShow 5 6    ShoverShow K A    Flop    9 J 8       Turn    4       River    A       BBWin Pair of Aces 1687.50  1687.50 ShoverWin Pair of Aces 3347.50  3647.50


Very odd hand. 56 i have no idea, also to confirm this was a £5.50 freezeout - non bounty. So i dont get that call at all.

silentbob

The 56 called cos they were sooted

fwiw, I think you could make an argument for calling & folding in this spot & if I'm not on life tilt & fully concentrating then I think I'm probably swearing lots & waiting for the timer to fold for me in this spot.

GREGHOGG

No its not too nitty!

Its a good fold TBF!:)

shelski

no.
i think you know this already.

FatBoy89

i'd fold as it's too early for me, not enough sugar in my tea yet.

essexpoker

£5.50 torney - Get your chips in. Your beating 90% of shoving hands there which include a whole host that u absolutly dominate being 22-JJ.

donkeyplop

Would you shove a low pair (unless you has less than 10bb) early in a mtt though??

The_Don90

In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:

£5.50 torney - Get your chips in. Your beating 90% of shoving hands there which include a whole host that u absolutly dominate being 22-JJ.
Posted by essexpoker

maybe but then ive also got 3 players to act behind (one of which has already raised), so even in a £5.50 tournament it may (not saying it is) be a good fold.

May i also ask you then - this is the bubble of the primo this hand shows up - do you fold ? Likley not.

But if its first hand of the primo do you fold?

YOUNG_GUN

I still think it is a tad nitty, although correct on this occasion

Unless you have a specific read you should never fold queens pre imo, only exception if 3 people before you commited in this case even 3 way i fancy our chances here. Perfect opportunity for you to pick up chips and go for the win, although it is early you may not get a better opportunity.

Again unless one of those in front of you was a nit i would not be folding in this spot, especially due to Buy in and tournament

waynec

In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:

£5.50 torney - Get your chips in. Your beating 90% of shoving hands there which include a whole host that u absolutly dominate being 22-JJ.
Posted by essexpoker

Just because its a small ball torny and only £5 is no excuse for poor poker, at what level do you suggest people start playing good poker £10, £100 ? If I want to gamble even with 50p I will click the casino button and try and play the best poker I can at what ever level.

debdobs_67

Agree with donkeyplop tbf and tbh,would depend on my mood,tbh though nowt wrong with the fold this early tbf,fwiw it can be played any way tbh,and tbf i like scottys reply as he is a fair and honest person tbh,xxx

lynx3ffect

In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:

Agree with donkeyplop tbf and tbh,would depend on my mood,tbh though nowt wrong with the fold this early tbf,fwiw it can be played any way tbh,and tbf i like scottys reply as he is a fair and honest person tbh,xxx
Posted by debdobs_67

wtf

donkeyplop

mfi