great call or a stupid call

jgn

Hand History #320289790 (19:55 20/12/2010)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance Small blind 200.00200.0018213.16xxxBig blind 400.00600.005120.00 Your hole cardsAQ    Fold     Fold    vidaFold    jgnRaise 1600.002200.007090.00 Call 1400.003600.0016813.16xxxCall 1200.004800.003920.00Flop  925    Check    xxxAll-in 3920.008720.000.00jgnCall 3920.0012640.003170.00 Fold    xxxShowA6   jgnShowAQ   Turn  J   River  6   xxxWinPair of 6s12640.00 12640.00

beaneh

Good call, unlucky.

jgn

greg i understand what you are saying but im asking if you would call or fold i was frighted that he had 66 77 so what read would  you of had?

beaneh

where's Greg? lol i'm confused.

how much do you have to call? how much is out there? what hands do you think your opponent plays like this?

jgn

greg did post lol saying bad beats on here with a yawn lol half of my sack, 3rd of my chip sack, i thought it was pure buff or 66 or 77 i went 4 the buff

GREGHOGG

i posted something then deleted it cos it was nonsense. I misread the hand thought your opponant called with A6.

I agree with beaneh nice call, ul.

jgn

ok greg and beaneh thanks 4 the feed back

sikas

fwiw player xxx is a douchebag, flatting 1/3 stack raise with A6 after a early pos raiser and a caller, flop action is a bit sick cos u dunno what the player behind is gonna do, i suppose u have to call, but id shove to isolate and prevent any more (marginal) action, if xxx had a bigger stack then id fold....

JulieJay

Raise less pre like 1000-1200 or just shove pre. 1600 gives your hand away and makes it awkward post flop.

As for wether the call is good I dunno, depends on reads. I call HU but with a player to act behind (as is the case) I'm not so sure. Probably OK I guess

jgn

julie i understand what you are saying but i was on the button so wouldnt that hide my hand more and tbh i am a button raiser with any hands

LOL_RAISE

well if you say that you raise the button with alot of garbage then you want to be raising a smaller amount to give you a better price on stealing the blinds and make your bluffs cheaper

jgn

i was 2x the raises before and i was geting called with rubbish like 45os  and started 2 do 1600 and the 1st 1 i got the blinds and then 2nd this happens lol but i no where u come lolraise plus im not a massive fan of aq

JulieJay

Well if you raise 4x every time you won't give away what you're raising with. But surely you don'r want to raise so much every time?? Also it's very awkward post flop like I said. Say just one of them calls - you get a 4000 pot and 7000 chips behind you. You'll miss 2/3 of the time. This a nightmare to play when you miss. If you raise to 1000 pre you'll have a pot of 3000 max and 7500 behind you - A bit of room to C-bet and fold or whatever.

Also, those calling stations/fish will often just call if they've got a pretty hand. Often, whether you raise 1000 or 1600 it won't make much difference if they fold or call pre.