simples, call or fold ( my final decision )

spornybol

early stages off deepstack

Hand History #325317600 (14:31 03/01/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
pod1	Small blind		10.00	10.00	4630.00
spornybol	Big blind		20.00	30.00	4800.00
	Your hole cards	K 4
TAEFMAN	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Fold
s	Call		20.00	50.00	4560.00
stackmeup1	Fold
pod1	Call		10.00	60.00	4620.00
spornybol	Check
Flop
		J 7 10
pod1	Bet		45.00	105.00	4575.00
spornybol	Call		45.00	150.00	4755.00
s	Raise		90.00	240.00	4470.00
pod1	Raise		330.00	570.00	4245.00
spornybol	Raise		1230.00	1800.00	3525.00
s	All-in		4470.00	6270.00	0.00
pod1	Fold
spornybol

spornybol

sorry had to bump up, as someone switched my post off so no-one could see what i have done

waller02

tough decision this early in a deepstack, i would only be worried about the villain having the ace as 89 clubs would be very unlikely there and if he did have it i doubt he would shove on the flop.

i think more likely he has a set, 2 pair or maybe a smaller flush and he doesnt want anyone with flush draw to call, all things considered i think i would call and if he has the ace and hits gl to him

beaneh

yay we have 5 clubs

I REPEAT FIVE CLUBS YAY

ARREEEEEEN

GaryQQQ

I snap call, if he's flopped the nut flush or straight flush then so be it, I just put it down to one of those things and move onto the next tournament. 

There's no way you can realisticly put him on only 8c9c or AcXc. He would probably play slowly with hands like that, not suddenly go all aggresive on you.

There are many other holdings in his range; the nut flush draw, two pair, a set, a made off-suit straight, top pair with the nut flush draw, a lower flush. If you are ahead around 40% or more of the time (you are) then it's a good call and +ev.

hurst05

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:

yay we have 5 clubs I REPEAT FIVE CLUBS YAY ARREEEEEEN
Posted by beaneh

chase the 6th club imo

Mohican

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold : chase the 6th club imo
Posted by hurst05

and the back door royal flush

spornybol

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold : and the back door royal flush
Posted by Mohican

BACK DOOR ROYAL FLUSH ?? DON`T THINK SO, I HAVE THE K CLUBS

lynx3ffect

wouldnt give credit to people being able to fold a worse flush here so i call!

Mohican

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold : BACK DOOR ROYAL FLUSH ?? DON`T THINK SO, I HAVE THE K CLUBS
Posted by spornybol

turn and river come QcAc and what does that give you?

dargan

In Response to simples, call or fold:

early stages off deepstack Hand History #325317600 (14:31 03/01/2011) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance pod1 Small blind   10.00 10.00 4630.00 spornybol Big blind   20.00 30.00 4800.00   Your hole cards K 4       TAEFMAN Fold         DOHHHHHHH Fold         s Call   20.00 50.00 4560.00 stackmeup1 Fold         pod1 Call   10.00 60.00 4620.00 spornybol Check         Flop     J 7 10       pod1 Bet   45.00 105.00 4575.00 spornybol Call   45.00 150.00 4755.00 s Raise   90.00 240.00 4470.00 pod1 Raise   330.00 570.00 4245.00 spornybol Raise   1230.00 1800.00 3525.00 s All-in   4470.00 6270.00 0.00 pod1 Fold         spornybol                                                                      
Posted by spornybol

you was right to fold some peeps will call with ace X so i think he hand ace x clubes thats why he went all in so well done for the fold

YOUNG_GUN

Never folding here especially in a deepy, unless you have super read

if i got this 100 times i doubt i'd fold 1 time

SHIP IT

spornybol

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold : turn and river come QcAc and what does that give you?
Posted by Mohican

thought you were talkin bout oppo - sorry

spornybol

i did not put them on a ace fush draw, had them on two pair or pair with flush draw but nope oh well

Hand History #325317600 (14:31 03/01/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
pod1	Small blind		10.00	10.00	4630.00
spornybol	Big blind		20.00	30.00	4800.00
	Your hole cards	K 4
TAEFMAN	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Fold
sa	Call		20.00	50.00	4560.00
stackmeup1	Fold
pod1	Call		10.00	60.00	4620.00
spornybol	Check
Flop
		J 7 10
pod1	Bet		45.00	105.00	4575.00
spornybol	Call		45.00	150.00	4755.00
sa	Raise		90.00	240.00	4470.00
pod1	Raise		330.00	570.00	4245.00
spornybol	Raise		1230.00	1800.00	3525.00
sa	All-in		4470.00	6270.00	0.00
pod1	Fold
spornybol	Call		3285.00	9555.00	240.00
spornybol	Show	K 4
sa	Show	8 9
Turn
		3
River
		5
sa	Win	Straight Flush to the Jack	9555.00		9555.00

JockBMW

ARRRRAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

SOOOO Unlucky mate.

Happened to me on the bubble of a £2K Live game at my local casino.  ONly I had the Ace flush so it was a tad more annoying.

Still you were right to call.  Folding King HIgh Flushes on the flop you'll end up losing too many winning positions.... IMHO  

waller02

In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:

tough decision this early in a deepstack, i would only be worried about the villain having the ace as 89 clubs would be very unlikely there and if he did have it i doubt he would shove on the flop. i think more likely he has a set, 2 pair or maybe a smaller flush and he doesnt want anyone with flush draw to call, all things considered i think i would call and if he has the ace and hits gl to him
Posted by waller02

shows what i know!!!! vul mate