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lets put these rigged threads to bed forever

edited January 2011 in Area 51

This to me seems like the easiest thing in the world to sort out,ever since i began there has been,rigged not rigged arguements on every forum i have ever seen,well,this is sky poker,this is sky pokers own site,not a skin,and this is sky pokers rng and poker programme yes?
  Ok,surely its easy then for sky to show on a tv  programme how it all works? show how all the stats about aa winning 3 out of 4 times,  75%, works out,how the best hand wins most of the time,surely there is data on all this?
 I would love to see how a rng works. This seems so obvious to do this and dispel all the doubters.
Seems to me,you could have a rigged poker believer,a computer programmer and a rng believer all investigating this together so all the relevent questions could be asked and answered no?
 I think this would be very interesting and totally in sky pokers interest to silence these rigged poker believers once and for all.

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  • edited January 2011
    The threads are all just people letting off steam. Those that truly believe it is rigged don't play, why would they it's rigged.

    Besides if sky showed the information it would all just be part of the conspiracy right :).

    I agree that the more transparency in how things work the better for us, but for the site they would have to decide if it's worth spending money on it, considering the people that start the rigged threads are back depositing within an hour anyway.

    One of the problems would be if you start publicly debunking these theories on TV, it publicises these beliefs and could cause more damage in terms of attracting new customers who previously would never have even considered the thought. Some People would start to think the site was rigged purely because sky felt they needed to confirm that it wasn't :)
  • edited January 2011
    thats a very good point.seems trust is everything.
    i do so hope its all genuine,i want to think it is,i really do!
  • edited January 2011
    sorry,a few more days on here,,its def rigged !!! for sure!! lol.greedy businessmen rule poker!
  • edited January 2011
    this hand could never be rigged could it? Of course it is, sky want you out in the freerolls so you buy back in
    qq v ak v jq suited v aq suited v ak. 10 out of the 16 face cards in play pre flop and i bet the guy who folded had a 10 or a 6
    Craig872 Small blind  30.00 30.00 3455.00
    sedgley58 Big blind  60.00 90.00 6000.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
         
    CHAMP999 Raise  420.00 510.00 3945.00
    sshafi21 Call  420.00 930.00 4605.00
    terry1961 Fold     
    PINGU550 All-in  3275.00 4205.00 0.00
    Craig872 All-in  3455.00 7660.00 0.00
    sedgley58 All-in  6000.00 13660.00 0.00
    CHAMP999 All-in  3945.00 17605.00 0.00
    sshafi21 All-in  4605.00 22210.00 0.00
    sedgley58 Unmatched bet  1035.00 21175.00 1035.00
    Craig872 Show
    • K
    • A
       
    sedgley58 Show
    • Q
    • Q
       
    CHAMP999 Show
    • J
    • Q
       
    sshafi21 Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    PINGU550 Show
    • A
    • K
       
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 6
    • 5
         
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    River
       
    • 10
         
    sedgley58 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 10s 21175.00  22210.00
  • edited January 2011
    No, keep 'em coming.

    I like Area 51.

    The crazier the threads the better. The madder the posters the better. It's like the site's own circus here, every day new clowns arrive to entertain us.
  • edited January 2011
    +1 for more clowns :)
  • edited January 2011
    + 1,000,000 for rigged sky hands
  • edited January 2011
    i found this on RNG

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/browse_thread/thread/cf6c4fb50553ad48/f59dab3c29ebbba3

    i dont think sky is rigged but if they use a RNG that shuffled during the action, that to me is a big reson for the bad beats.

  • edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: lets put these rigged threads to bed forever:
    i found this on RNG http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/browse_thread/thread/cf6c4fb50553ad48/f59dab3c29ebbba3 i dont think sky is rigged but if they use a RNG that shuffled during the action, that to me is a big reson for the bad beats.
    Posted by troggers
    My understanding from previous discussions on this subject is that they don't.
  • edited January 2011
    For all those who play on Sky Poker and think its rigged in any way shape or form please ask yourself this one simple question.
                          WHY ARE YOU STILL PLAYING ON THIS SITE ARE YOU ALL MAD.
         0r is it that you like to blame someone, anyone but yourselfs for either playing bad or getting bad beats.
     Bad beats are all part of poker like it or not, when you hit the magic card on the river do you type in the chat box and say to the player you have just beat "sorry mate i wasnt lucky just then its Sky Pokers fault its rigged ".
         But if you are quite happy to carry on playing on here then please stop all this rubbish about it being rigged, if not and you still say it rigged please SHUT THE DOOR ON THE WAY OUT THANK YOU.
                                               Regards   Mick .
  • edited January 2011
    It is rigged, and it's so obvious, I'm not saying it's rigged against me or any one player, but they obviously load up the pocket cards, and the flop so people(often more than just 2) are going to bet, call and raise, to up the rake.

    this was a good one tho
    biggunne15 Small blind  10.00 10.00 1950.00
    ALIVEHAT60 Big blind  20.00 30.00 1980.00
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • J
         
    sedgley58 Call  20.00 50.00 1980.00
    Metalhead Fold     
    ac10 Call  20.00 70.00 4120.00
    biggunne15 Fold     
    ALIVEHAT60 Check     
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 10
    • A
         
    ALIVEHAT60 Check     
    sedgley58 Bet  35.00 105.00 1945.00
    ac10 Raise  175.00 280.00 3945.00
    ALIVEHAT60 Fold     
    sedgley58 Call  140.00 420.00 1805.00
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    sedgley58 Bet  210.00 630.00 1595.00
    ac10 Raise  1050.00 1680.00 2895.00
    sedgley58 All-in  1595.00 3275.00 0.00
    ac10 Call  755.00 4030.00 2140.00
    sedgley58 Show
    • 8
    • J
       
    ac10 Show
    • 10
    • 7
       
    River
       
    • K
         
    sedgley58 Win Royal Flush 4030.00  4030.00
    followed closely by this one
    biggunne15 Small blind  25.00 25.00 3640.00
    ALIVEHAT60 Big blind  50.00 75.00 2535.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    sedgley58 Raise  150.00 225.00 3640.00
    Metalhead Fold     
    biggunne15 Fold     
    ALIVEHAT60 All-in  2535.00 2760.00 0.00
    sedgley58 Call  2435.00 5195.00 1205.00
    ALIVEHAT60 Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    sedgley58 Show
    • K
    • A
       
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 7
    • A
         
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    River
       
    • A
         
    sedgley58 Win Three Aces 5195.00  6400.00
    and then
    sedgley58 Small blind  25.00 25.00 3865.00
    Metalhead Big blind  50.00 75.00 2060.00
      Your hole cards
    • 5
    • J
         
    ac10 Call  50.00 125.00 1740.00
    biggunne15 Call  50.00 175.00 1925.00
    ALIVEHAT60 Call  50.00 225.00 2185.00
    sedgley58 Fold     
    Metalhead Check     
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 7
    • 10
         
    Metalhead Check     
    ac10 Bet  225.00 450.00 1515.00
    biggunne15 Call  225.00 675.00 1700.00
    ALIVEHAT60 Fold     
    Metalhead Fold     
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    ac10 Bet  675.00 1350.00 840.00
    biggunne15 Call  675.00 2025.00 1025.00
    River
       
    • 4
         
    ac10 Check     
    biggunne15 All-in  1025.00 3050.00 0.00
    ac10 All-in  840.00 3890.00 0.00
    biggunne15 Unmatched bet  185.00 3705.00 185.00
    ac10 Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    biggunne15 Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    biggunne15 Win Flush to the Ace 3705.00  3890.00
    all in same SnG
  • edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: lets put these rigged threads to bed forever:
    It is rigged, and it's so obvious, I'm not saying it's rigged against me or any one player, 
    Posted by sedgley58

    thats the second royal flush you been in so far this year....

    is only the 19 th jan....

    i mean honestly how many quads and royal flushes can you explain randomly?

    200 in 19 days?

    lol...

  • edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: lets put these rigged threads to bed forever:
    In Response to Re: lets put these rigged threads to bed forever : thats the second royal flush you been in so far this year.... is only the 19 th jan.... i mean honestly how many quads and royal flushes can you explain randomly? 200 in 19 days? lol...
    Posted by djblacke04

    I've played poker for 30 years and 8 years on line and I've had precisely ONE R/F. 



  • edited January 2011
    OMG  why are you still here then ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  • edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: lets put these rigged threads to bed forever:
    OMG  why are you still here then ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    Posted by chew07


    Take a look at the relevant sharkscopes and all will be revealed.

     A couple or 3 RF's in a lifetime is what I would expect. Some guys on here have been playing 2 years and had half a dozen - uncanny.

  • edited January 2011


    the best one i ve seen so far this year was an ak v kk on a flop of k 99

    turn was 9
    river was 9

    lol...


  • edited January 2011
    Yawn..........
  • edited January 2011
    +1 Young Gun this sublect is really starting to get boring, i think a lot of people just have to have something to moan about.
  • edited January 2011
    Check out my fold, WOO HOO.
    belsibub Small blind  200.00 200.00 1090.00
    bedsores Big blind  400.00 600.00 935.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • Q
         
    bexhill106 Fold     
    sedgley58 Fold     
    belsibub All-in  1090.00 1690.00 0.00
    bedsores All-in  935.00 2625.00 0.00
    bedsores Unmatched bet  45.00 2580.00 45.00
    belsibub Show
    • A
    • A
       
    bedsores Show
    • K
    • A
       
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • K
    • Q
         
    Turn
       
    • 7
         
    River
       
    • K
         
    bedsores Win Full House, Kings and Queens 2580.00  2625.00
    As Jim Royle would say, ''R n g, my ar$$$$$e''.
  • edited January 2011
    AA V KK v KQ allin.then case K hits on flop
    then KQ hits runner runner for str8.AA is nowhere.
    Its just sooooooooooo RANDOM

    tatters Small blind  50.00 50.00 880.00 igimc Big blind  100.00 150.00 1190.00   Your hole cards 2 3       billings Raise  500.00 650.00 540.00 Candid Fold     Oldrag Raise  1200.00 1850.00 4690.00 bigbruks All-in  2235.00 4085.00 0.00 tatters Fold     igimc Fold     billings All-in  540.00 4625.00 0.00 Oldrag Call  1035.00 5660.00 3655.00 billings Show K K    Oldrag Show K Q    bigbruks Show A A    Flop    10 3 K       Turn    9       River    J       Oldrag Win Straight to the King 5660.00
  • edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: lets put these rigged threads to bed forever:
    +1 for more clowns :)
    Posted by chew07
    a dog playing poker and liking the site !what chance us humans?
  • edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: lets put these rigged threads to bed forever:
    In Response to Re: lets put these rigged threads to bed forever : Take a look at the relevant sharkscopes and all will be revealed.  A couple or 3 RF's in a lifetime is what I would expect. Some guys on here have been playing 2 years and had half a dozen - uncanny.
    Posted by elsadog
    Nice scope, that is is a proper MTT players graph. :-)
  • edited January 2011
    Probability of royal flush = 0.000154%, translates to 649,740 to 1 against. 

    Where its true that enough people plaing x number of tables and x number of hands statistics will encompass the variance.  1 individual making two RF'S within a 14 day period is the statiscal polar opposite of some guy waiting 60 years.  Statistically both are likely.  But i play ALOT of poker and my personnal and social life revolve around it.  My friends and the majority of the people i come into contact with are poker players.  I've never met anyone who could tell me they made two RF within such a short time span, not even a tall story about it. 

    It is as likely, statistically, discovering that your snot has started turning to gold.  Then upon closer inspection finding a big diamond in the centre.
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