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Changes to the Viva Las Vegas Monthly Final.
The next VLV Final will be on January 30th, & there will FIVE Finals in all this year, being January, February, March, April, & May.
It has been decided to change the payout structure for the "Seat Bubble", that is to say, the player who misses the Seat by one spot.
Previously, ALL the "spare" money went to the seat bubble. This resulted in as much as £9,000 in two cases being awarded where there were, say, 19, or 29, runners.
With immediate effect, this will now change.
The "left over" element of the Prize Pool - the cash element - will be split into THREE, on the basis of 50%, 30%, & 20%.
So, if there are, say, 25 runners, there will be two £10,000 packages, with £5,000 "left over".
This £5,000 would be split 50%, 30% & 20% to the THIRD, FOURTH & FIFTH places.
If there were 18 runners, & thus 1 £10k package, the £8,000 would be split 50%, 30% & 20% between 2nd, 3rd & 4th places.
This change will remain in place until further notice, though, like all things, the Suits will re-examine it &/or modify it in the light of player-experience.
All constructive feedback welcome.
Comments
By the bye, with only two of this month's 5 Semi-Finals completed, there are already NINE Qualifiers for the Final on Jan 30th.
Vegas, baby!
Good Luck to all this month's finalists.
The biggest problem I see is that there will be a call for all other satellites that have an excess amount, to have a similar payout structure instead of it being paid to the bubble.
Peeps pay their monies and peeps know the drill - If you now tell them they are now only going to receive half of what they should have got if they go out on the bubble, the question is going to be - WHY?
I see from your post that you have given an explaination to this question but, regardless of the values why should this tourny be setting a president and have a different payout structure to all other satellites on sky poker?
Would players be happy for the bubble money in other satellites to be devided in a similar way? I'm not sure.
You did ask for feed back - Please don't see this as a moan, it's just an observation.
Regards
Pokertrev
In 2009. There was a 9k Bubble. (10k package first, 9k 2nd and NOTHING for 3rd!) I was victim of a 2k bubble in 2009 in the vegas lite too.
It's only relevant in satellites of huge value, so it does not apply to any other tournament on sky! Dont worry!
Imagine that you had spent hours and hours qualifying, made the final, and finished 3rd for nothing after weeks of effort. a few quid would soften the blow, right!
Quite an incentive to get into the final too, as more chance of winning monies, if you dont win the package. Smart move Sky.
This is also relevant to players with smaller bankrolls, who also spend hours playing smaller satellites such as the primo and the 8k sky sports sats just to find themselves going out one before the bubble for nothing. So in my opinion it does apply to other satellite tournaments on sky.
Hi Trev,
To be honest, Hoggers has covered it pretty well in his Post, especially as to why it does not set a precedent.
The decision is not cast in stone, & it could revert to the previous system if feedback suggests it would be better.
It does not really matter one way or the other to Sky Poker, there is no additional or lesser costs involved, it's just based on player-feedback, & common-sense.
It's nice to come 2nd & pick up £9,000, it must be said. It's also pretty grim to finish 3rd & get sfa.
Come what may, the new system WILL be in place for the January Final, & until further notice, unless good reason to revert to the original system can be demonstrated. But whatever happens, ther new system will apply to the January Final.
Either way I think it's a change for the better...I can't imagine how brutal it must be coming fourth for nothing while third take £9k and the winners are off to vegas.
PS - Good to meet you on Saturday. You are much older than I imagined.
but reading my own comments i do wonder how it would change the play of the game if you did not want the vegas ticket and played for the cash anyway not that i could imagine anyone would if the bubble is spread out a bit i think players would prob play more for the win.