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KK, bad call?

no way did i put him on his cards, poss missed flush.

all because my pre bet was too small?
ianatter23 Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £20.65
toe2toe Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £7.58
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
Scottomus0 Raise   £0.30 £0.45 £21.72
elmakem Fold        
080987 Fold        
ianatter23 Call   £0.25 £0.70 £20.40
toe2toe Fold        
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 2
  • 9
     
ianatter23 Bet   £0.70 £1.40 £19.70
Scottomus0 Raise   £1.75 £3.15 £19.97
ianatter23 Call   £1.05 £4.20 £18.65
Turn
   
  • 7
     
ianatter23 Check        
Scottomus0 Bet   £3.15 £7.35 £16.82
ianatter23 Call   £3.15 £10.50 £15.50
River
   
  • Q
     
ianatter23 All-in   £15.50 £26.00 £0.00
Scottomus0 Call   £15.50 £41.50 £1.32
ianatter23 Show
  • 5
  • 6
     
Scottomus0 Show
  • K
  • K
     
ianatter23 Win Straight to the 9 £40.10   £40.10

Comments

  • edited January 2011
    easy to say in hindsight, but I think that river bet is rarely a bluff. I would be more inclined after he calls the raise and the straighty card comes down to check and reevaluate- I'd be putting him on a drawing hand on flop, either club or straight, and based on the action hands like 10J of clubs are quite likely. The turn check does seem a little weak, but when he check calls and shoves river, I think you have to be sure he's hit his hand somewhere down the line. I wouldn't mind checking behind on turn and re-evaluating the river in position- controls the pot, and makes a shove a lot easier to fold to without so much lost. As is, he'd probably bet much smaller and you can get showdown against a lot of hands, and cheaper notes than stacking off.

    Oh, and the pre sizing was fine. At 5/10 you could possibly make it 40/50 with real premium hands, since people are quite likely to call anyway and you want maximum value from them. I think it's only when you hit 15/30 you need to start being careful about preflop bet sizing, since people start looking at your hands.
  • edited January 2011
    was trying to be wary but this guy has been playing so loose its unreal, calling 90% of raises etc.

    ive just been stacked with trip queens against a flopped straight on same table lol.

    not running well today :(
  • edited January 2011
    well in that case the call's understandable, but I'd still be a little careful, maniacs tend to stack themselves pretty easy, and bear in mind- all you have there is an overpair. There's so many hands he calls you with that have you crushed- a handful of straights and 2 pair, or a set. With a set of kings, or even a paired board, there's a lot more value in calling- but I think calling the river against a maniac is still tricky.

    What if you had AQ? what would your move be then?
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