flopped FH, Turns into quads on river - with chance oppo has flush - how much more value should I of

tapeworm

Title sums it up really - should I have been reraising rather than calling earlier dtreets - higher bet on river???

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tapeworm	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.52
xxx	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.46
	Your hole cards	7 7
raytei01	Fold
sharpy1	Fold
Jambo82	Fold
tapeworm	Call		£0.02	£0.08	£4.50
xxx	Raise		£0.08	£0.16	£4.38
tapeworm	Call		£0.08	£0.24	£4.42
Flop
		7 J J
tapeworm	Check
xxx	Bet		£0.08	£0.32	£4.30
tapeworm	Call		£0.08	£0.40	£4.34
Turn
		10
tapeworm	Check
xxx	Bet		£0.12	£0.52	£4.18
tapeworm	Call		£0.12	£0.64	£4.22
River
		7
tapeworm	Bet		£0.48	£1.12	£3.74
xxx	Call		£0.48	£1.60	£3.70
tapeworm	Show	7 7
xxx	Muck	K 10
tapeworm	Win	Four 7s	£1.48		£5.22

DOHHHHHHH

You have to raise the turn.

Think about what hands he could have, he has bet twice.

If he's bluffing, you're only gonna get a 3/4 pot bet out of him on the river if he decides to bluff a third time.

By just flatting all the way down, you're only going to get paid big if the hand is a cooler. You can't expect every hand to be a cooler. You have to find other ways to get paid - i.e let him make a mistake. 

You can flat the flop, that's understandable, you have flopped the world, he could just be making a standard c bet after raising pre. No problems here.

The turn is a great card for you.....

- It makes the flush, and it brings a single card flush draw.

- It makes a possible straight, and again, brings in straight draws.

He has led in to you again, the pot is small, your hand is massive!!! - You need to make the pot bigger. At this level, he will continue with made hands, and draws, there's no excuse not to raise here. Don't wait until the river, hope he hits, then get it in - you're missing alot of value doing this.

If you raise the turn, you can make your river play depending on how he responds to your raise. It may be a value bet, it might be an over-bet, or maybe even a check (wouldn't recommend it at this level without notes).

As played, on the river I would definitely over-bet my hand at this level, I would just go all in, as I think his hand looks alot like a jack.

Sorry about the long reply, I used to make this mistake all the time at 25$nl on will hill when I first started. I would flop the world, and "not want to scare them off".

The sooner you get out of this mentality - the better - BET YOUR BIG HANDS BIG !!

P.S - Forgot to say, you could have this situation 20 times in a row on the turn, if you make the raise 20 times in a row, and he snap folds his hand 20 times in a row - obviously it's disappointing, but don't start thinking you're playing it wrong, he just had nothing.

YOUNG_GUN

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