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Turn a house....fold or a call?

WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
sb Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £3.35
bb Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £9.38
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
utg Call   £0.10 £0.25 £7.55
WHOAMI196 Raise   £0.50 £0.75 £14.14
cut off Fold        
button Raise   £0.90 £1.65 £21.31
sb Fold        
bb Call   £0.80 £2.45 £8.58
utg Fold        
WHOAMI196 Call   £0.40 £2.85 £13.74
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 9
  • 2
     
bb Check        
WHOAMI196 Check        
button Bet   £2.14 £4.99 £19.17
bb Fold        
WHOAMI196 Call   £2.14 £7.13 £11.60
Turn
   
  • 9
     
WHOAMI196 Check        
button All-in   £19.17 £26.30 £0.00
WHOAMI196 ?????
        
           
           
           
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  • shaun09shaun09
    edited January 2011
    Id prob stack off and lose. But It looks like an over pair..Because of the re raise pre flop altho it wasnt a big re raise. But mayb he only done a small re raise because he has aa and dint want to scare you off. (bad betting):D

    Then again he could have a lower PP and thinks flop 992 is a good flop for his small pair. i dunnoooo
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited January 2011

    Ahh man so sick these types of hands.

    Mixed mesages?

    Min 3b pre - "kool, we're set mining with jacks for a good price"

    C bet flop - "Well, he's telling the story, he probably has me beat, but can I really fold JJ on this board to 1 bet????"

    Jam turn - "would he ever do this with AA/KK?????? WTF?"

    He's played pre flop, and flop like ur crushed, and then spazzes out and duz that. - It's almost like he's so bad, he's good.

    I would never fold here.

    But I should.

    You are beat, and if you aren't you should be.

    I fffffffffffin hate poker, and it's only 6pm.
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  • waynecwaynec
    edited January 2011

    4 hands beating u..... horrible spot to be in cant see how you can fold IMO

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  • AyrGraemeAyrGraeme
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    4 hands beating u..... horrible spot to be in cant see how you can fold IMO
    Posted by waynecure

    I can only think of 9/2,  9/3, & 9/4 - what's the other one?
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  • N1CKN1CK
    edited January 2011
    have you any previous info on this guy?
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    have you any previous info on this guy?
    Posted by N1CK
    Not much info at all i was in mini view at the time didnt really notice him really so put him down as a TAG .

    Just a sick spot, i had to put him on qq, kk on the werid min re-raise pre,  if he had AA he might have played it slower on the flop esp the turn? i dunno one thing is for sure i either made a stupid fold or a good one....

    For the record i did fold but wasnt sure if i made the right laydown...
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    Ahh man so sick these types of hands. Mixed mesages? Min 3b pre - "kool, we're set mining with jacks for a good price" C bet flop - "Well, he's telling the story, he probably has me beat, but can I really fold JJ on this board to 1 bet????" Jam turn - "would he ever do this with AA/KK?????? WTF?" He's played pre flop, and flop like ur crushed, and then spazzes out and duz that. - It's almost like he's so bad, he's good. I would never fold here. But I should. You are beat, and if you aren't you should be. I fffffffffffin hate poker, and it's only 6pm.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    LOL great post so true
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call? : I can only think of 9/2,  9/3, & 9/4 - what's the other one?
    Posted by AyrGraeme
    I can think of alot of hands beating me

    92 93 94 95 96 97 98 9T 9J 9Q 9K 9A AA KK QQ

    All those. :P
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  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive
    edited January 2011
    unless he's an absolutely amazing player playing far above this level, he never has quads here- overshoving that is a mental move that can only possibly work with a whole heap of metagame going on. I would be relatively confident he has a pp here, no more.

    Question is what that pp is- it's a tough, tough call, but I can definitely see him turning up with 77/88/TT at least as often as QQ/KK/AA. The shove reeks to me of fear of you having two overcards, and beating his house on the river- he's put you on AK/AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ etc and wants you off the hand now, whilst his little pair's still good.

    Bit sick though... I can't blame a fold at all, I probably would have done given the time you get to go through options. Would love to find out what he had.
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
    edited January 2011
    Great post above deuces live... any ways found the hh just in case they want to show it on the tv....

    Hand History #332319489 (17:50 21/01/2011)

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  • waynecwaynec
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call? : I can only think of 9/2,  9/3, & 9/4 - what's the other one?
    Posted by AyrGraeme
    quad 9s (9-2 A-9 classed as one hand) , FH AA/KK/QQ
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call? : quad 9s (9-2 A-9 classed as one hand) , FH AA/KK/QQ
    Posted by waynecure
    pretty certain they aint

    cnt see villain min 3 bettin pre wiv 92o

    howvever im guessing A9 & 9Ts/89s are far more likely
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
    edited January 2011
    Man I Suuckk
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited January 2011

    lol !!!

    Innit sposed to be a sign of a good player when u fold the best hand???

    Any consolation? ;)

    Ive requested my hand where I folded AQ on Q high flop too, bet spdbrkr shows up with 4 high or something

    :D
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    lol !!! Innit sposed to be a sign of a good player when u fold the best hand??? Any consolation? ;) Ive requested my hand where I folded AQ on Q high flop too, bet spdbrkr shows up with 4 high or something :D
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    cheers dohh, Same happened here but i aint being a mug this time lol

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    marcus191 Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £17.78
    MP33 Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £9.91
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
    		     
    spornybol Raise   £0.30 £0.45 £22.82
    WHOAMI196 Raise   £0.90 £1.35 £22.79
    xxxxx Raise   £3.30 £4.65 £16.83
    marcus191 Fold        
    MP33 Fold        
    spornybol Fold        
    WHOAMI196 Call   £2.40 £7.05 £20.39
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 3
    • 3
    		     
    WHOAMI196 Check        
    xxxxx All-in   £16.83 £23.88 £0.00
    WHOAMI196 Call   £16.83 £40.71 £3.56
    WHOAMI196 Show
    • J
    • J
    		     
    xxxx Show
    • 7
    • 7
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 10
    		     
    River
       
    • 8
    		     
    WHOAMI196 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 3s £39.31   £42.87
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  • TopTopTopTop
    edited January 2011
    i have seen many times on this site donks min raising with Q9 ,K9 and A9 siuted so i recon a good fold sky poker would have given the worst hand a dream flop sky love to favour the idiots all the time play like a donk and win seems to be the rule on here
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  • N1CKN1CK
    edited January 2011
    what did he have out of interest?
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  • N1CKN1CK
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call? : Not much info at all i was in mini view at the time didnt really notice him really so put him down as a TAG . Just a sick spot, i had to put him on qq, kk on the werid min re-raise pre,  if he had AA he might have played it slower on the flop esp the turn? i dunno one thing is for sure i either made a stupid fold or a good one.... F or the record i did fold but wasnt sure if i made the right laydown...
    Posted by WHOAMI196
    you need to be taking notes on these players in hands vs other players at the table, i dont know how many tables your playing but if your missing opportunities on note taking i would suggest you cut it down to playing 4 tables max
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  • hurst05hurst05
    edited January 2011
    bad play imo
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    bad play imo
    Posted by hurst05

    F U LOL
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    what did he have out of interest?
    Posted by N1CK

    Nick he had A7!!! i take ur point about note taking, tbh i do most times u cant have info on everyone but would have helped here for sure, i was 6 tablin in mini view for the first time actually normally only play 4 full table so it probably didnt help
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  • hurst05hurst05
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call? : F U LOL
    Posted by WHOAMI196
    your missing out on monies
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  • hurst05hurst05
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call? : Nick he had A7!!!
    Posted by WHOAMI196
    rofl no wonder he wanted you to fold
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  • N1CKN1CK
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call? : rofl no wonder he wanted you to fold
    Posted by hurst05
    Hursty has you fold trip aces with tk hand been shown yet? if not this burn could be premature lol
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  • hurst05hurst05
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call?:
    In Response to Re: Turn a house....fold or a call? : Hursty has you fold trip aces with tk hand been shown yet? if not this burn could be premature lol
    Posted by N1CK
    tonight on the poker clinic. 100% good fold no sweat :)



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