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did i play this right

DTWBANDITDTWBANDIT
edited September 2009 in Hold'em Poker Strategy






DTWBANDIT 		Small blind   10.00 10.00 4790.00
franny129 Big blind   20.00 30.00 2470.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • J
     
Hillier01 Call   20.00 50.00 4700.00
M17-LDO Raise   220.00 270.00 7700.00
lucky77777 Fold        
BEARWITHME Call   220.00 490.00 4750.00
DTWBANDIT Call   210.00 700.00 4580.00
franny129 Raise   400.00 1100.00 2070.00
Hillier01 Call   400.00 1500.00 4300.00
M17-LDO Call   200.00 1700.00 7500.00
BEARWITHME Call   200.00 1900.00 4550.00
DTWBANDIT Call   200.00 2100.00 4380.00
Flop
   
  • Q
  • 3
  • 7
     
DTWBANDIT Bet   1050.00 3150.00 3330.00
franny129 All-in   2070.00 5220.00 0.00
Hillier01 Fold        
M17-LDO All-in   7500.00 12720.00 0.00
BEARWITHME All-in   4550.00 17270.00 0.00
DTWBANDIT All-in   3330.00 20600.00 0.00
Turn
   
  • J
     
River
   
  • 10
     
DTWBANDIT Show
  • Q
  • J
     
franny129 Muck
  • 3
  • 9
     
M17-LDO Muck
  • Q
  • A
     
BEARWITHME Show
  • K
  • K
     
BEARWITHME Win Pair of Kings 340.00   340.00
DTWBANDIT Win Two Pairs, Queens and Jacks 17310.00   17310.00
M17-LDO Win Pair of Queens 2950.00   2950.00
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  • DTWBANDITDTWBANDIT
    edited September 2009


        re above hand this was very early on in deepstack and from watching how they were betting i thought i played it right tho 1 player said worst hand won wasn't the person with kings who said it look forward to some feedback please
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  • lucky77777lucky77777
    edited September 2009
    you played that dead right the poker gods done the rest good hand
    and we all know its not all about your pocket cards it is what comes on the board

           and well done  all the best lucky



                                                                                                         






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  • lucky77777lucky77777
    edited September 2009
    you played that dead right the poker gods done the rest good hand
    and we all know its not all about your pocket cards it is what comes on the board

           and well done  all the best lucky



                                                                                                         






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  • Huck_NallHuck_Nall
    edited September 2009
    Personally, I wouldn't have called the original pre flop raise....
    however, after that the hand plays itself.
    Awful play by others in the hand tho imho.
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  • jimbo31jimbo31
    edited September 2009
    HELLO AGAIN MATE..BEEN A WHILE... AGREE WIV HUCK HERE... MUCK UR JQ... PRE.... Y GET INVOLVED??? BUT THEN THE HAND PLAYED ITSELF TO BE FAIR ON THE FLOP AND IT WAS ALL EVENTUALLY GOING IN..BEARWITHME SHOULD OF RERAISED... ISOLATED THE POT NOT HAVE 4 IN IT... BUT LOL AT 39 CALLER!! CHEERS JIM
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  • KingDougKingDoug
    edited September 2009
    In Response to did i play this right:
    DTWBANDIT Small blind   10.00 10.00 4790.00 franny129 Big blind   20.00 30.00 2470.00   Your hole cards Q J       Hillier01 Call   20.00 50.00 4700.00 M17-LDO Raise   220.00 270.00 7700.00 lucky77777 Fold         BEARWITHME Call   220.00 490.00 4750.00 DTWBANDIT Call   210.00 700.00 4580.00 franny129 Raise   400.00 1100.00 2070.00 Hillier01 Call   400.00 1500.00 4300.00 M17-LDO Call   200.00 1700.00 7500.00 BEARWITHME Call   200.00 1900.00 4550.00 DTWBANDIT Call   200.00 2100.00 4380.00 Flop     Q 3 7       DTWBANDIT Bet   1050.00 3150.00 3330.00 franny129 All-in   2070.00 5220.00 0.00 Hillier01 Fold         M17-LDO All-in   7500.00 12720.00 0.00 BEARWITHME All-in   4550.00 17270.00 0.00 DTWBANDIT All-in   3330.00 20600.00 0.00 Turn     J       River     10       DTWBANDIT Show Q J       franny129 Muck 3 9       M17-LDO Muck Q A       BEARWITHME Show K K       BEARWITHME Win Pair of Kings 340.00   340.00 DTWBANDIT Win Two Pairs, Queens and Jacks 17310.00   17310.00 M17-LDO Win Pair of Queens 2950.00   2950.00
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited September 2009
    Ok first of all like the others above, i wouldnt of called the raise with QJ.. It was a massive bet to start with 11x a blind bet shows such strength.. What are you beating at this point in time.. has he raised with Q,10? j,10? i would say more like AQ AK, JJ in which case your are dominated in them all (apart from AK). Once you have called, the re-raise and amount of callers gave you gret value to call, so dont blame you for the 2nd call... Even on that flop everyone says it plays itself, but not IMO, You have put out a nice big bet (1/4 of your stack) so you are NOT commited just yet. You see a short stack allin shove (which i would call) but then you see another all in and another all in... In this case i would expect them to have AA,KK or a set... there is no way the last or even the 3rd person would go all in there with less than QJ... I would be folding there quicker than superman on laundry day.

    QJ/KJ are the most overplayed hands in holdem.. if a person raises (who is a tight steady player) thye are likely to have AK,AQ,AJ etc, so you are dominated, if the flop then comes J,5,2 for example.. you are going to go bust...

    Also incase you didnt know, 2 suited cards actually only improves your hand my 5%, so you will only make thta flush 1 in 20, it can be better to just ignore they are suited... if you wouldnt play them off suit then dont play them suited IMO

     Hope this didnt sound a bit heavy, but especially as it was a deepstack there was no need to be calling a raise with QJ to start with
     

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  • DTWBANDITDTWBANDIT
    edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: did i play this right:
    Personally, I wouldn't have called the original pre flop raise.... however, after that the hand plays itself. Awful play by others in the hand tho imho.
    Posted by Huck_Nall

       hi roy
         the reason i called the pre - flop raise was M17 had been raising around the same amount on previous 6 hands with mainly rubbish so i thought he was doing a Neil Channing so with me QJ suited i thought it was worth a punt

      many thanks for your feedback m8

      michael
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  • DTWBANDITDTWBANDIT
    edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: did i play this right:
    HELLO AGAIN MATE..BEEN A WHILE... AGREE WIV HUCK HERE... MUCK UR JQ... PRE.... Y GET INVOLVED??? BUT THEN THE HAND PLAYED ITSELF TO BE FAIR ON THE FLOP AND IT WAS ALL EVENTUALLY GOING IN..BEARWITHME SHOULD OF RERAISED... ISOLATED THE POT NOT HAVE 4 IN IT... BUT LOL AT 39 CALLER!! CHEERS JIM
    Posted by jimbo31

      hiya jimbo have said why i called raised pre-flop in reply to Huck as there was no re-raise i reckoned they were going along for ride to see if he was bluffing

        cheers m8

       michael
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  • DTWBANDITDTWBANDIT
    edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: did i play this right:
    Ok first of all like the others above, i wouldnt of called the raise with QJ.. It was a massive bet to start with 11x a blind bet shows such strength.. What are you beating at this point in time.. has he raised with Q,10? j,10? i would say more like AQ AK, JJ in which case your are dominated in them all (apart from AK). Once you have called, the re-raise and amount of callers gave you gret value to call, so dont blame you for the 2nd call... Even on that flop everyone says it plays itself, but not IMO, You have put out a nice big bet (1/4 of your stack) so you are NOT commited just yet. You see a short stack allin shove (which i would call) but then you see another all in and another all in... In this case i would expect them to have AA,KK or a set... there is no way the last or even the 3rd person would go all in there with less than QJ... I would be folding there quicker than superman on laundry day. QJ/KJ are the most overplayed hands in holdem.. if a person raises (who is a tight steady player) thye are likely to have AK,AQ,AJ etc, so you are dominated, if the flop then comes J,5,2 for example.. you are going to go bust... Also incase you didnt know, 2 suited cards actually only improves your hand my 5%, so you will only make thta flush 1 in 20, it can be better to just ignore they are suited... if you wouldnt play them off suit then dont play them suited IMO  Hope this didnt sound a bit heavy, but especially as it was a deepstack there was no need to be calling a raise with QJ to start with  
    Posted by FlashFlush
       hi Charlie  many thanks for your feedback m8

           normally i wouldn't have called pre-flop but M17 had been doing same sort of raises on previous 5-6 hands by time it got back to me i thought it was worth a punt to see a flop tho was slightly concerned about Bear but thought maybe he was thinking the same as me wasn't to bothered abount fann as that person had been calling with rubbish hench M17's 7k chip stack after 15mins when flop came i thought i need to see where i am at so bet half of fann stack who i expected a call from plus i wanted to see what bear would do as for M17 had him on maybe any pair Q and under or AK AJ Q-LOW KICKER when bear call his all in gave it a bit of thought had him on kk or AA so he would be looking for 2 cards to my possible 6 cards plus outside chance of flush & straight so i called thought the odds were good & let the Poker Gods decide if i read it right

         thanks again for your feedback m8 very much appreciated

        michael
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  • DTWBANDITDTWBANDIT
    edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: did i play this right:
    you played that dead right the poker gods done the rest good hand and we all know its not all about your pocket cards it is what comes on the board        and well done  all the best lucky                                                                                                      
    Posted by lucky77777


       cheers for that m8 how did you get on in the end ?

       michael
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  • DTWBANDITDTWBANDIT
    edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: did i play this right i would have played it the same GOOD HAND love anita x:
    In Response to did i play this right :
    Posted by KingDoug

       hiya doug hows things m8

      michael
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2009
    hmm  Michael, in view of the raise (massive over bet  pre flop) I'd have passed  most times at this stage. Not to say every time  though .. It depends on so many things but in general I'd pass in that situation, ..

    However I do like to get chips early in any tournament, so there would be a case for being in the  coup online but not a live event   (reasons....for  and against  in  these situation's)

    Play with you best feelings in any hand, !! ( sixth sense if you like )

    Also once you have bet the flop you have almost committed and there are four players all-in ? (eeek)

    With four players in it's in the lap of the poker fairy to help ...and she did !!  (Nice one) 

    glk  benny
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  • dantb10dantb10
    edited September 2009
    I dont like the call pre with it being so high and a deepie. the second call is ok as u getting the math. I like the bet size post flop for information, but you get the info you need but dont listen to it. In my opinion u fold the hand soooo fast!

    gl m8
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID
    edited September 2009
    Go fish!
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  • DraigDraig
    edited September 2009

    As much as I think your a great person, and not sure where you have gone, this was a typical Turpin play.

    You had something, overbet the worse hand, and got lucky.


    Overall...bad play that got rewarded, from the initial call to a re-raise,to the call to an all in that was just SCREAMING AQ...good job you hit the jack.

    I think you play the D/S the same way you play the faster tourneys. Sometimes you get lucky, as in above, but longer term, it is just bad play.

    This is a 10 hand deepie. Not a 6 hand BH.

    Sorry mate. Hope your well, but you just got lucky.

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