HU facing river bet,

DOHHHHHHH

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DOHHHHHHH

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Played this guy abit before, he has tended to float quite wide on dry flops. The turn is a safe card for me, but rather than bloat the pot and commit myself to the hand, I decide to check for some pot control.

The river brings in a backdoor flush and straight, and sure enough he fires a solid bet.

At the early levels I've been betting most dry flops, and c-betting almost all the time unless the board is sopping wet.

I've tended to give up all my air on the turn and river if un-improved, which may allow him to float the flop and get me off on the turn, or river, but as he checks the turn here I think he's more likely to have Ax or Kx.....

Anyway, when a random overcard comes like this, do you still go with your intial read? and "if he hit the queen, its unlucky?"

Is it too tight to fold in these situations, he's not really representing anything, but he's no bluffed much in the past. I think ten jack, and the flush draw would bet the turn, given my cbet %age, and the history of me shutting down on the turn & river.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DOHHHHHHH	Small blind		15.00	15.00	1085.00
xxx	Big blind		30.00	45.00	870.00
	Your hole cards	4 4
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		45.00	90.00	1040.00
xxx	Call		30.00	120.00	840.00
Flop
		9 6 6
xxx	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		90.00	210.00	950.00
xxx	Call		90.00	300.00	750.00
Turn
		8
xxx	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
River
		Q
xxx	Bet		180.00	480.00	570.00
DOHHHHHHH

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YOUNG_GUN

In that case i think i go with your initial thoughts on turn, if he has hit the queen then its ul and you get a bit more info

he could be bluffing so chances we can win, also blinds relatively low so i think its ok to call here to get info

is he capable of bluffing the river? if yes i would lean towards snap call

N1CK

you say he floats alot here so when you c bet he still has good equity against your hand, if he doesn't bluff alot there is in argument for checking the flop, i think if you cbet the flop you have to bet that turn and give up the river if he bets into you, as played i think i would fold, if he bluffs alot then a call might not be bad,

DOHHHHHHH

Although he has good equity on the flop, I'm pretty sure I have the best hand, and I have position to control the pot size in the rest of the hand.......

I just can't see what he's trying to tell me he has....unless he's back-doored a flush, but I'm quite sure he would lead the turn with a fd, maybe he was planning to check raise?

But that doesn't make sense because I've been slowing down on the turn unless I've got something big, so his c/r would only lead to him getting it in on a draw miles behind.....

There's also been no history of him c/raising me on turn or river.

So my thought process on the river, was I planned to just check behind, or snap call a bet on any non Ace/King/9......

But then I had 2nd thoughts when he actually did bet! lol......

N1CK

had he been showing down any High cards?
would he rep a queen on the end? it does hit his range pretty hard if you wernt so shallow you can hero call and get some info worse ways

DOHHHHHHH

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
MUNKSY	Small blind		25.00	25.00	545.00
DOHHHHHHH	Big blind		50.00	75.00	1380.00
	Your hole cards	J 9
MUNKSY	Call		25.00	100.00	520.00
DOHHHHHHH	Check
Flop
		J 6 8
DOHHHHHHH	Check
MUNKSY	Bet		100.00	200.00	420.00
DOHHHHHHH	Call		100.00	300.00	1280.00
Turn
		6
DOHHHHHHH	Check
MUNKSY	Check
River
		A
DOHHHHHHH	Check
MUNKSY	Bet		100.00	400.00	320.00
DOHHHHHHH	Call		100.00	500.00	1180.00
MUNKSY	Show	5 8
DOHHHHHHH	Show	J 9
DOHHHHHHH	Win	Two Pairs, Jacks and 6s	500.00		1680.00

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Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DOHHHHHHH	Small blind		10.00	10.00	990.00
MUNKSY	Big blind		20.00	30.00	980.00
	Your hole cards	K 6
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		40.00	70.00	950.00
MUNKSY	Call		30.00	100.00	950.00
Flop
		J 7 5
MUNKSY	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		75.00	175.00	875.00
MUNKSY	Call		75.00	250.00	875.00
Turn
		4
MUNKSY	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
River
		7
MUNKSY	Bet		80.00	330.00	795.00
DOHHHHHHH	Fold
MUNKSY	Muck
MUNKSY	Win		250.00		1045.00
MUNKSY	Return		80.00	0.00	1125.00

N1CK

i would have called the K6 hand, hes pretty bad,  back to your original hand his bet is a bit bigger compared to previous, he still could be bluffing the river with the best hand, if you bet the turn this wouldnt happen so you have set yourself up to bluff catch with bottom pair

pod1

not sure im qualified to give opion on first hand but do you not think he may have a 6 and slow playing it. thats how i would play it. checking the flop, flatting your raise, checking the turn to let you bet out again and then firing in a bet on river. if you dont think this dohhhh and nick could you explain why?

N1CK

sure any 6 is in this guys range and he is the kind of player that would slowplay it but its only a very small part of his range

thejudge10

think u have to fold here,only hand ur ahead of is a bluff,what would he be bluffing,not an ace or a king,or a raise pre flop would have been played,so maybe a q or jack with some sort of mid card,chances are i think he,s hit,maybe something like q 7,so i would fold.

DOHHHHHHH

Yeh as above, it's so hard to flop trips heads up, that I'm not really considering that as a possibility in such a small-ish pot...

If he has 6x, then, meh, so what - nice hand.

DOHHHHHHH

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DOHHHHHHH	Small blind		15.00	15.00	1085.00
MUNKSY	Big blind		30.00	45.00	870.00
	Your hole cards	4 4
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		45.00	90.00	1040.00
MUNKSY	Call		30.00	120.00	840.00
Flop
		9 6 6
MUNKSY	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		90.00	210.00	950.00
MUNKSY	Call		90.00	300.00	750.00
Turn
		8
MUNKSY	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
River
		Q
MUNKSY	Bet		180.00	480.00	570.00
DOHHHHHHH	Call		180.00	660.00	770.00
MUNKSY	Show	4 K
DOHHHHHHH	Show	4 4
DOHHHHHHH	Win	Two Pairs, 6s and 4s	660.00		1430.00

pod1

i can see some similarities!!! lol