Value bet river?

Wilhelm

I'm putting him on AQ, QJ, Q9, maybe Q8, and missed heart draws.  Just got moved to this table so no specific reads.  I'm thinking that if he has A6 or Q 10 he prob raises the turn.  Value bet river about 700?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
R__C__S	Small blind		20.00	20.00	6110.00
carlos2222	Big blind		40.00	60.00	7475.00
	Your hole cards	Q K
toontoon24	Fold
iamaaron03	Fold
Wilhelm	Raise		120.00	180.00	5310.00
EL_BAYLEAF	Fold
R__C__S	Fold
carlos2222	Call		80.00	260.00	7395.00
Flop
		Q 6 6
carlos2222	Check
Wilhelm	Bet		160.00	420.00	5150.00
carlos2222	Call		160.00	580.00	7235.00
Turn
		10
carlos2222	Check
Wilhelm	Bet		350.00	930.00	4800.00
carlos2222	Call		350.00	1280.00	6885.00
River
		4
carlos2222	Check

Norbit

I dunno, At this blind level i would most prob check behind with showdown, built a nice pot already.

I guess theres room for a slim value bet, but check seems fine, im looking forward to better replys to this, as this is a spot i may be losing value on.

DOHHHHHHH

Once he checks the river it's an easy value bet for me, especially given the stack sizes, it's likely you're ahead, and there's lots of hands that can call, if he c/raises it's an easy fold, and you still have millions of big blinds to recover.

It's not going to damage your chances of going deep too much if you lose 600ish here.

He had QT?

YOUNG_GUN

I dont think you can discount A6, i'd call turn with that but i wouldn't check

I check, looks like busted flush draw to me, but i doubt he's paying you any more and we have good showdown value. i think your only getting called by better so check

Dudeskin8

Bet 700.

waynec

In Response to Re: Value bet river?:

I dont think you can discount A6, i'd call turn with that but i wouldn't check I check, looks like busted flush draw to me, but i doubt he's paying you any more and we have good showdown value. i think your only getting called by better so check
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

IMO YG is correct here but I think your ahead so its boarderline situation

ROBBIEROTT

he raised pre flop so i would guess he has low-mid pair or ace 8 above or two paint cards,10 j suited cards  once the flop come down he was gonna cbet it anyway once you checked, he may of hit the 10 on the turn, but once your checking each street and hes betting out and your calling hes bet,and to be honest the bets arent going to hurt your stack, so on the river you could  put a value bet in or a blocker bet of around 550-650,but i would probaly check here and if he bets between 500-700 then i would call any more then maybe you could fold and find a better spot ,this is quite a difficult spot to be in as you dont know how this player has been betting.

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: Value bet river?:

he raised pre flop so i would guess he has low-mid pair or ace 8 above or two paint cards,10 j suited cards  once the flop come down he was gonna cbet it anyway once you checked, he may of hit the 10 on the turn, but once your checking each street and hes betting out and your calling hes bet,and to be honest the bets arent going to hurt your stack, so on the river you could  put a value bet in or a blocker bet of around 550-650,but i would probaly check here and if he bets between 500-700 then i would call any more then maybe you could fold and find a better spot ,this is quite a difficult spot to be in as you dont know how this player has been betting.
Posted by ROBBIEROTT

Pretty spot on imo Mr TSP fantastic effort

pryce6

In Response to Re: Value bet river?:

In Response to Re: Value bet river? : Pretty spot on imo Mr TSP fantastic effort
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

except he has the order completely wrong lol

thejudge10

 call,chk call,chk call,chk,almost certain that you are ahead,otherwise why would he chk the river,after chk calling twice he must know,that u are going to slow down.so why no value bet by him on the river.even so still a tricky spot.i would also chk,if u go for a value bet,and you get raised what do you do?at times u have to be happy with your lot.chk take notes and move on.

Wilhelm

Here's what happened.  I went for the extra value and planeed to fold to a raise, but then he click-raises me and I'm getting over 4.64 to 1.  Do you call?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
R__C__S	Small blind		20.00	20.00	6110.00
carlos2222	Big blind		40.00	60.00	7475.00
	Your hole cards	Q K
toontoon24	Fold
iamaaron03	Fold
Wilhelm	Raise		120.00	180.00	5310.00
EL_BAYLEAF	Fold
R__C__S	Fold
carlos2222	Call		80.00	260.00	7395.00
Flop
		Q 6 6
carlos2222	Check
Wilhelm	Bet		160.00	420.00	5150.00
carlos2222	Call		160.00	580.00	7235.00
Turn
		10
carlos2222	Check
Wilhelm	Bet		350.00	930.00	4800.00
carlos2222	Call		350.00	1280.00	6885.00
River
		4
carlos2222	Check
Wilhelm	Bet		780.00	2060.00	4020.00
carlos2222	Raise		1560.00	3620.00	5325.00

DOHHHHHHH

Ugh man so sick......

I would bet abit smaller......

If he's bluffing here he's either a genius or a total plonker, 99.9% of the time its the latter......

He's got you beat, fold.

I think by betting smaller on the river you get a call from a wider range of hands, and if you get raised you save some money.

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: Value bet river?:

Ugh man so sick...... I would bet abit smaller...... If he's bluffing here he's either a genius or a total plonker, 99.9% of the time its the latter...... He's got you beat, fold. I think by betting smaller on the river you get a call from a wider range of hands, and if you get raised you save some money.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Point well made.

DOHHHHHHH

Did you fold?

Good poker clinic hand - hint

Stick the hand I.D at the top of the O.P and be nice to sky_Lingdy

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: Value bet river?:

Did you fold? Good poker clinic hand - hint Stick the hand I.D at the top of the O.P and be nice to sky_Lingdy
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I folded and he said he had Q6.