Question about pot odds? Bad call?

jugglegeek

Well I've tried for 15 mins to post the hand from the hand history (and yes I have read the chuffing sticky post about posting your hands on this forum) and all I get is a bunch of code and no pretty pictures of the cards.

I'll describe the hand instead.

After paying twice the big blind to see a flop with Ks Jd four handed I flopped the nut straight Qc Ah Tc. I bet a quarter of the pot as a continuation bet after a short stacked player threw in their last big blind. One folded but the third player went all in making it 5800 more to call for a 12K pot. I put him on a flush draw but am I getting good pot odds from this call.

I called and lost by the way. But that's not what is important

waller02

what was your stack?
i would be betting around 3/4 pot on the flop, he could be shoving with a good ace, two pair or a set so its a snap call from me even if i know he has a flush draw.
also, you have the nuts so the pot odds shouldn't come into it, if it was you on a draw then worry about the pot odds

N1CK

by betting a quarter of the pot your giving a flush draw good odds to call 5-1, as for your call you have the best possible hand so you can call watever

i posted an article on bet sizing in this forum take a look

jugglegeek

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
SCALLYWAG	Small blind		200.00	200.00	9670.00
tays08	Big blind		400.00	600.00	20712.50
	Your hole cards	K J
finchy0813	Raise		800.00	1400.00	493.75
jugglegeek	Call		800.00	2200.00	9207.50
tomchap1	Call		800.00	3000.00	5310.00
TRADEMARK1	Call		800.00	3800.00	6753.75
SCALLYWAG	Fold
tays08	Fold
Flop
		Q A 10
finchy0813	All-in		493.75	4293.75	0.00
jugglegeek	Raise		987.50	5281.25	8220.00
tomchap1	Fold
TRADEMARK1	All-in		6753.75	12035.00	0.00
jugglegeek	Call		5766.25	17801.25	2453.75
finchy0813	Show	J A
jugglegeek	Show	K J
TRADEMARK1	Show	A 5
Turn
		2
River
		K
TRADEMARK1	Win	Flush to the Ace	17801.25		17801.25

DPhillips

In Response to Re: Question about pot odds? Bad call?:

by betting a quarter of the pot your giving a flush draw good odds to call 5-1, as for your call you have the best possible hand so you can call watever i posted an article on bet sizing in this forum take a look
Posted by N1CK

just so i understand it better

he has 9 outs yh?

so 9x4 = 36%

so what does he need to have in middle to call is it 3/1? 


cuz 40% is a win every 2 in 5

tapeworm

firstly there is a min raise UTG by the short stack pre. This player is all in on the flop come what may.

KJos is a very hard hand to play oop - you needed to fold or raise 3 x the min raise - you cant play this multi way effectivally.....and you are likely to get a lot of callers here - which is what happened

post flop you need to raise more than a quarter - knowing the hands aside, you give great odds for all sorts of hands to call here - granted all but one are drawing dead - but still. that bet looks like a drawing bet - he shoved knowing he had the nut draw - didnt think you had a straght - who would

mr big stack can also call off here without worry for his tourney life - meaning its less of a worse call than normal